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When is a ski "spent"? - Page 2

post #31 of 37
A weight or a torque wrench...either one. The main thing is knowing the specs for an "unspent" example of the same ski.
post #32 of 37
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Originally Posted by checkracer
I don´t want to argue if/why 40 and/or not 37 or 45 days nor about the definition of "hard skiing" (skier´s skills, weight, terrain, speed,...?).


The "foam" (PU) used in the cores of some high-end skis, sometimes in combination with wood, is IMHO different than the cheap injected material in low-end skis.
I wouldn´t wage to set the 40-days lifespan for any "foam core ski".
Foam might have improved somewhat since the Rossi 4-S (I believe the most popular high end ski they sold), but that ski, when skied hard in the East, didn't last more than 40 days, if that. It was a terrific ski, but voila the price one had to pay. Rossi followed it up with the 7S which was stiffer and lasted longer. It raced better and satisfied the complaints by rec skiers. However, since so many people got burned on the 4S, it didn't sell very well. The advantage to using foam would be that you can formulate the characteristics of it. Wood can be laminated to do this, but it doesn't work as well. However, the bonds in foam Break down quickly.
post #33 of 37
When it breaks.

The ski industry in the last 15 years has made leaps and bounds improvements. I have to be honest one of my all time favorite skis was the K2 244 USA. When I first skied them in the mid 70's they were the industry forerunner. In fact I would look through the Penny Saver, Newspaper, Garage Sales and Swap Meets just to grab a used pair. I think at one time I had like four pairs. I finally broke my last pair in 1995. Yes, I had plenty of newer skis, Volkl, Rossis, K2 etc.... but I always brought my 244's with me. They were an all-around fun beater ski. They got loaned out to buddies who swore they were great skis. Pretty funny standing in lift lines and all the long time die hard skiers would see me on those and comment on what a great ski they were. Even swaped skis right in the lift line a few times with total stangers, just so a guy could have a run on them to relive old memories.
post #34 of 37
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After starting this thread, I observed that when I put my skis together, they are about 1/8 inch apart. When I bought them, they were more like 1/2 to 5/8 inches apart. They don't hold on hardpack as well as they once did. I figure they are "spent".
post #35 of 37
This is not very technical but I consider my skis spent when they suck compared to new skis. When that happens I get new skis and my sucking skis become rock skis.

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post #36 of 37
A rule of thumb used to be 100 days, if I remember right. A good wood core Volkl should last a lot longer- I've put 200 days on wood core skis. Nowadays I buy new skis for the new designs long before I wear them out.
post #37 of 37
I was just thinking the same thing.

I've heard that volkl's get better with age due to their special wood cores.

Since coming back from my injuries, I've skied the X15 and the Modxpro.

The x-15 saw a lot of use and a lot of aspen, snowmass and highland's bumps. It also saw a ton of powder days in all kinds of places. I'd say it was spent after I noticed that the tip of the left ski had bent back.



My modx pro's are on their 30th (approximately) day and they've lost a little bit of camber but they carve and ski like a dream still. New skis last longer.

I also think the best way to preserving your ski investment is having a small quiver. Hopefully, for me it will be a rock ski, a 95 mm all mountain ski, and a super fat powder ski. Ski tech is amazing right now and there are specialized skis for all kinds of skiing.
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