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post #91 of 113
I've skied once in Japan and twice in Utah. The single best powder day I've had was at Alta after 1 metre (36") of snow overnight and a further 50cm (18") fell during the day. I'm 185cm (6'1") tall and it was chest deep skiing on fat skis.

As jimintokyo pointed out, the snow in Niseko is consistent. Last year was a mediocre season but I still found knee deep powder on 5 of the 9 days I skied there.

For Aussies the choice is fairly easy, it's a nine hour flight from Sydney to Tokyo, with a couple of hours connection to the Nagano area or an onward flight to Sapporo and bus to Niseko plus the advantage of only a two hour timezone change. The Utah option requires a 14 hour flight from Sydney, then a three to four hour connection through the LAX hellhole to SLC and an 18 hour timezone change.
post #92 of 113
Hi, love the white stuff and have persued it everywhere.

Have done a million days in the Cottonwoods of Utah - the most memorable being @ Alta, I think in late Jan or Feb 84. Had been snowing for a few days and another big storm rolled in overnight, about 10 inches was in the car park @ 9am. It fell stronger throughout the day as we followed Patrol to new terrain with required snorkles. The car had 20 or so inches on it at 4pm, we were stuffed ... but what a day. Wish I had some fats back then. Canyon got closed and had to spend the night, unfortunately had to go to the airport that morning.

However, I remember back fondly to a season in Furano, Hokkaido. I swear from early Dec thru to late Mar 03 we had about 3 days through that period were it did not snow. The most memorable period of amazing snow conditions that I can think of. Snow clearing around the house each day became a real drag.

We had day after day of +10 inch falls - still think it's a record there. I got a rotten lung infection in Mar from days of sucking in crystal. Did I mention the cold .... burrrrr. My toes are still recovering.

Hokkaido has the ' Greatest Snow on Earth ' not Utah - Absolutely no doubt about it. If Utah has light, Hokkaido has lightest.

Done the Alps, great terrain and bars ... the snow .. hmm.

Valdez and Galmarg, Kashmir are on the do list, they could trump above .. me thinks.

Peace.
post #93 of 113
Would like to know what season that was...
post #94 of 113
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Would like to know what season that was...
Not too unheard of. I've had a few seasons in my 4 at Zao where it almost didn't stop snowing for 2-3 months. It's not pukage, it's just constantly falling snow. That + severe humidity = crystalizing air madness.

I'll say it again, the most dangerous skiing of my life (31 seasons: MN, CA, NZ, AK, MT, WY, JP) was in Japan. Only here has my ski-buddy told me; "Dude, your nose is white, get down now!" Frost grows on EVERYTHING, including the falling snow. I believe the humidity and the Siberian freezes that come across the Japan Sea are the two major factors contributing to the legendary Japan pow. That, and the fact that locals don't ski it = never packed-out lines = deep like I've never experienced.

I spent 5 years in Montana and learned the term: Cold Smoke. But, Japan has defined that term for me on a much more rapant scale. It's not falling snow, it's crystaling air.

Your breath that turns to fog becomes solid and falls to the earth. That's Japan. You do NOT go skiing with skin uncovered. :
post #95 of 113
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Would like to know what season that was...
03/04 ...
post #96 of 113
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Originally Posted by Endless Winter View Post
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Hokkaido has the ' Greatest Snow on Earth ' not Utah - Absolutely no doubt about it. If Utah has light, Hokkaido has lightest.

Done the Alps, great terrain and bars ... the snow .. hmm.

Valdez and Galmarg, Kashmir are on the do list, they could trump above .. me thinks.

Peace.
Have done Japan, Hokkaido pow is fantastic, but the terrain leaves someting to be desired. Nagano (Hakuba) has great mountains, especially the back country, but the snow quality can be hit or miss.

Gulmarg has some of the best skiing I have ever done (mountain, snow, people, adventure), but I would not rate it as great powder, just really great off-piste skiing.
post #97 of 113
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Have done Japan, Hokkaido pow is fantastic, but the terrain leaves someting to be desired.
Touche.
post #98 of 113
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Have done Japan, Hokkaido pow is fantastic, but the terrain leaves someting to be desired. Nagano (Hakuba) has great mountains, especially the back country, but the snow quality can be hit or miss.
Spot on for Hokkaido powder.
IMO, Naeba is as good as Hakuba
post #99 of 113
Endless, 03/04 was a good winter in Hokkaido, no doubt (hell, almost every winter in Hokkaido is good). If I remember right, I spent four days around New Year at Nukabira, four more in mid January at Niseko and three days in early February at Furano/Kamui. Then I flew to Utah for a week at Alta. I'm always glad to hear people say how good the snow in Japan is, after all it's where I do most of my skiing, but I always wonder how they can think it's better than the Rockies. On some days, sure. There are bound to be days when Hunter Mt. is better than Jackson Hole, for that matter. But if you're talking about odds of finding great, light powder, they're just much better at places like Snowbird & Jackson.
post #100 of 113
Grindlewald, Switzerland!!!!!
post #101 of 113
Kicking Horse, British Columbia, wish it was more than a weekend
post #102 of 113
When it dumps Le Grave just over the back of Deux Alps is pretty amazing!
post #103 of 113
Its a great pow day at Bridger Bowl when you have to follow a ski width path back to the lift, or else you won't have enough speed.
post #104 of 113
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Its a great pow day at Bridger Bowl when you have to follow a ski width path back to the lift, or else you won't have enough speed.
Bridger does get great snow. I held a pass there for four years. They coined the term "Cold Smoke."

but what you're describing is because of the flat terrain blelow the skiable terrain. Bridger's chair-accessed terrain can get very flat. (not that that's unique to bridger)

I miss the O's the most. Talk about chuck fest.
post #105 of 113
Yea the flat part sucks, especially going to Pierre's. I can't wait for the new ridge terrain next year. Is Bridger one of the first ski areas to make a lift where you need a beacon to ride on it? With the new chair, ppl can't complain about Bridger getting tracked out so quickly.
post #106 of 113
is there a chair being installed to go up the ridge? Or- are they allowing skiers to use the patrol rope now?

What do you mean?
post #107 of 113
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is there a chair being installed to go up the ridge? Or- are they allowing skiers to use the patrol rope now?

What do you mean?
Not the patrol rope, but a new lift in Slushman's. It looks like it will open up some nice terrain.
More details here: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=70977
post #108 of 113
a lift to Slushman's would open sweet terrain.

Are they also cutting a cat-track back to the base? I would assume so.

either way, congrats to the Bridger kids! That's going to open new opportunities to hiking D-Route as well. Maybe D-Route won't take so long anymore.

Plus... another face-valley to explore. Slushman's has been getting skied for decades via skinners from the base. Aside from tracks, you're going to start seeing kicker-builders uniting. That gorge is a kicker-builder's paradise.
post #109 of 113
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a lift to Slushman's would open sweet terrain.

Are they also cutting a cat-track back to the base? I would assume so.

either way, congrats to the Bridger kids! That's going to open new opportunities to hiking D-Route as well. Maybe D-Route won't take so long anymore.

Plus... another face-valley to explore. Slushman's has been getting skied for decades via skinners from the base. Aside from tracks, you're going to start seeing kicker-builders uniting. That gorge is a kicker-builder's paradise.
So far, the map doesn't show a cat-track but it would make sense.
I've never hiked d-route cause its so damn far from the orginal ridge hike, plus the lift will stop only 100 ft. from the top of the ridge, yeh!
I hope the patrol allows building kickers on the new terrain.
post #110 of 113
Good for you guys.

Chalk that up to 2 of my home mountains expanding this year- Bridger and KW!

Rip it up!
post #111 of 113

Where in BC have you skied? Whitewater and Revy are where it's at. Kicking Horse has the vert, but doesn't hold a candle for pow. And, hello AK? I doubt you can beat it.

post #112 of 113

I second with Alaska - I skiied with Chugash Powder Guides on March 13, 2013 and it was total epic killer pow.

post #113 of 113

Some of my the best powder days

 

1) Saddleback Maine- 42" light and dry, after a huge two day blizzard a couple years ago, blue skies and 20 degrees. Fresh tracks for two days.

 

2) Revelstoke British Columbia- 8-10" almost every night for a week, but it was heavy snow. Should have gone a couple weeks sooner

 

3) Three Valleys France- 20+ light and dry, but I had the wrong skis and floundered like a fish.

 

4) Sugarloaf Maine- 24-28" cold and light snow

 

5) Bridger Bowl Montana- 12" perfect snow, bluebird day

 

6) Wachusett Mt., Massachusetts - 28-32" after a big blizzard last winter. Too bad there is no real vertical to speak of, but it was a blast.

 

AppleMark

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