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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
As some of you may have read from some of my recent postings, I have just started to get back into skiing. Everything is sort of 'new' to me and I am just trying to figure out the current skis and boots...

At any rate, I was at the local ski shop here in Northern Virginia, just looking at the recent 05/06 K2 catalog and I noticed that the shop had written $799 and $899, before tax, under the Apache Recon and Crossfire.

Is this the current pricing trend for skis? We are talking almost $1000 for a pair of skis. Is that right? I could not get over the fact that somebody is going to pay that much for a pair of skis.

The last time I bought new skis and boots was somewhere in the mid 80's (Olins CXSTL? or something like that and Nordica's 980) and even though it was a lot of money, for me, back them, it did not seem as 'excessive' as it seems to be right now.

Is it me? Am I that out of touch with 'ski reality'?
post #2 of 21
I was shocked when i had to pay $350 for my PE's ,and 170 for the axial (or axium idk the ones like look p10's) bindings. then my friend says that he just laid down $1200 for skis bindings and boots!

Lesson learned: dont buy skis in November wait until march
post #3 of 21
can we say ebay? right now you can buy a volkl 7 24 exp either 170 or 177 on ebay for about $500.....imo better ski than either crossfire of recon, and has the piston technology......I think k2 is way overpriced:....esp for far east mfg, not even a made in washington state usa product any more....lame....imo of course....if you must have k2 you can find a couple shops on ebay blowing them out too.....one shop even sets em up for ya...."proskiguy" I think is the name of it..... happy hunting
post #4 of 21
A few websites I use

www.sierratradingpost.com
www.steepandcheap.com
www.backcountry.com
www.gear.com

I picked up a pair of Fischer 03 Bigstix brand new for $190.
I picked up a pair of Scott Firewall poles for $30 (yesterday!)

both of the above at Sierra Trading Post
post #5 of 21
I sort of remember when a cup of coffee was a dime. I wasn't drinking it then, but I remember the price because a soda was a quarter. Now coffee is $1.50 for a cup of regular machine stuff, and $4.50 for an espresso. A can of soda is $1.50 now.

Things have gone up in price.
post #6 of 21
I second the ebay suggestion.

If you know what you want and the size you want it in, just start watching ebay.

I had never bought anything at all on ebay until this winter, but I bought my wife a brand-new pair of Dynastar Inspireds (last year's model, of course) for $275. Just two weeks ago, I bought a new, current-model pair of 184cm Dynastar Course 66 for just over $200. Both pairs were in their wrappers, seem flawless, and arrived within of few days of the transaction.

I'm sure horror stories can happen on ebay and I probably would be a little leery of buying used skis online, but there are a ton of choices every day for new equipment.

Good luck,

Bob
post #7 of 21
Forget ebay. Support your local shop. But support them when they're selling stuff @ 40% off!

Remember, only losers pay retail.
post #8 of 21
Hey Guys,
First of all I saw a post saying that K2 is overpriced. K2 like Volkl and almost every other ski manufacturer is selling ski/binding systems. Second as far as the skis not being made in the US anymore this unfortunatly was a good thing. US production of K2 skis was very poor the last few years they were produced here. The warranty rate went from the 25% the last 2 years they were made in the US to around 1% after moving to China. It is sad to say that China makes better skis than we do. I agree that skis are much overpriced from every manufacturer, but retailers and internet merchants have no say in the price they sell the product for until Feb. hits. Merchants are told by the manufacturers what price they can sell at and if they break this agreement risk losing that line altogether. As you can tell this is the time of year to buy equipment esp. if you are getting back into it. There is some great product out there for good money. One place that just lowered there price and offers free shipping and no sales tax is
www.untracked.com.
Or you can call 1-877-865-0740
post #9 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betaracer
I sort of remember when a cup of coffee was a dime. I wasn't drinking it then, but I remember the price because a soda was a quarter. Now coffee is $1.50 for a cup of regular machine stuff, and $4.50 for an espresso. A can of soda is $1.50 now.

Things have gone up in price.
Whoa-$4.50 for an espresso? Canada is a crazy place! I have seen foo-foo CRAPuccino Charbucks drinks for that, but never an espresso (I haven't been to Vancouver in awhile though). I hear JJ Bean is a great roastery up there. Around here (Portland), a Stumptown doppio runs $1.80 (probably the best $1.80 I can spend!). Dark reddish-brown, bubbly guiness crema-ummmmm! You can get a cup of french press at Stumptown (made within the last hour, and honestly the best press that has ever graced my lips) for $1. Not too shabby!

By the way Yuyax, if you need K2's, send me a PM. We are a dealer, and have a few pairs available-Apache X, Recon, and Crossfire at very reasonable prices.
post #10 of 21
Why not buy close-out skis? Great skis marked way down because a newer model is out - doesn't make them any less good.
post #11 of 21
Learn the market. I can find new skis for $29.00+shipping.
post #12 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainiac
Learn the market. I can find new skis for $29.00+shipping.
Where?
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input and the contacts that some of you have provided. Much appreciate it.

I did manage to pick up a pair of Dynastar SC9 at Sports Authority and P10 bindings via Ebay for a total of $265.

Yes, I decided a long time ago that I will most likely buy used skis and if I buy new ones, it will always be in March during the closeout deals.

I was just commenting about the current trend in ski prices that I noticed recently. Call me an old fogie or cheap but I just can't see dropping between $700 - $1000 for skis. or even $500.

I don't know the retail markup for skis but when I used to work at bike shops, the markup for a bicycle was very low. If I recall correctly, the most a shop will make on a bike was between 15% - 30%. You have take into account the assembly time, future warranty work, free tune ups, etc and that reduces the overal profit on a bike quite a bit. Most of the money a bike shop makes is from accessories (helmets, clothing, etc). Skis OTOH seem to be a one time out of the door thing. Mount the bindings and the service and time required for that ski sale is probably over. Future bindings checks are not free. I guess I am trying to figure out why skis are so expensive and maybe this comparison is not completely fair...

Just some rambling comments...
post #14 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainiac
Learn the market. I can find new skis for $29.00+shipping.
:

Link please!!!!!
post #15 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon
:

Link please!!!!!
I would never pay over $300. I've picked up some great skis for $150, and just found some of this years Metron 10 for 278.

New skis for $29 can be found, in fact I had a pair with a big orange sticker I covered with plastic just to rub it in.

Here's a pair I watched just out of curiousity:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I see people on worse skis every day.
post #16 of 21
post #17 of 21
That is a great deal for those Head's! I have a pair in 180cm and they are a blast.
post #18 of 21
Skis are so expensive for several reasons IMHO. The R&D costs of developing skis and the technology of their manufacturing is probably not trivial given that these are still produced in relatively small quantities by consumer goods standards. Marketing costs (including ski teams, promotions, demo ski discounts, training etc) is considerable. Finally, skis are becoming expensive because people are willing to buy them and have expectations for performance, durability, graphics, etc. There will always be enough people who buy $1000 skis for $1000 so that the rest of us who buy them for $300 make it economical to produce and retail them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by yuyax
I guess I am trying to figure out why skis are so expensive and maybe this comparison is not completely fair...

Just some rambling comments...
post #19 of 21
Magnesium, Titanium, ceramics, etc. Remember when Kevlar was a "space-age material" in skis? R&D has gotten far more sophisticated. I paid a lot more for skis this year than I ever have before, but, quite frankly, they are so much better than any skis in my 34 seasons past, that it doesn't surprise me in the least.
post #20 of 21
When I was a kid in the early '60's a pair of Head Standards was rumored to go for $100 (way too rich for my family's blood). I would guess that the rate of inflation since then would make a $700 - $1000 setup about equal.

If I paid MSRP for my newest set of skis and bindings I would have paid over $1000 before tax. With end-of-season sales I got by for just under $450 after tax. Things seem kind of cheap when put in that context.
post #21 of 21
We are in 05 and you're looking at next year's skis, so it is a given that they'll ask as much as they think they can get away with. Also, small places or shops that are near the slopes tend to be a 20, 30 or even 40% more expensive than specialized or humongous places.

If you can get in touch with a retailer, do so (at demo days, just make buddies with them, buy them beer, etc.). Watching ebay or going to auctions at the end of the season can be very beneficial. Last year, I paid around 200 CAN for a pair of Comp 130 and less than 30 for two pairs of Scott racing poles. And remember, last year's skis were very, very good, so being a year or two behind the trend is nothing to be ashamed of.

Finally, I'd rather have a used ski, wich I can afford to wax and tune myself every time I get them out, than a new ski wich I can only afford to have tuned by the high-school dropout at the mountain 4 times in a year.
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