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Whistler's new snow

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
How are conditions there?
86 cm in the last week!

What's going on there?
post #2 of 30
Good
post #3 of 30
Thread Starter 
Great!
post #4 of 30
Even though I broke my thumb there last weekend, I have to say that the amount of fun that can be had there right now is enormous. So much snow fell this last weekend.

If you have the means to get to Whistler, do go. It's just simply awesome right now and with temperatures staying pretty cold for the next week and a half, it's going to stay very very nice.
post #5 of 30
Is it too little, too late though? Has reputation become such that anyone is still skiing there this year? Just wondering what business is like up there.
post #6 of 30
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Originally Posted by Tasmen
It's just simply awesome right now and with temperatures staying pretty cold for the next week and a half, it's going to stay very very nice.
Environment Canada predicts the freezing level to go to 2000 meters with mixed rain and snow for this weekend. It looks better later, but it's not going to stay very, very nice this weekend. :
post #7 of 30

Whistler

I just returned after 7 days It started snowing on Wednesday and built up through the weekend
Powder skiing , up to my knees, that resort has recovered, over three feet of snow fell from Friday to Monday
Beautiful snow, Solar Coaster was packed powder yesterday, likewise Jersey Cream
and all the other runs .
Whistler and Blackcomb has snow all the way to the base
Lots of snow
post #8 of 30
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Originally Posted by pheft
Environment Canada predicts the freezing level to go to 2000 meters with mixed rain and snow for this weekend. It looks better later, but it's not going to stay very, very nice this weekend. :
*shrug* Here is the forecast I'm going off of:

Extended forecast for Whistler - Blackcomb.
Saturday..Snow. Snowfall accumulation 25 cm. Freezing level 1600 metres.
Sunday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1300 metres.
Monday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1000 metres.

I'd say that looks very nice

And yes, the mountain has recovered. They opened 35% more terrain now and have 85% of the mountain open. If you stick to the top of both mountains, you'll be a very happy.
post #9 of 30
Hopefully Environment Canada is wrong - but I am heading up tonight just in case and get at least 1 good day. Has anyone hiked up Flute this week?
post #10 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasmen
*shrug* Here is the forecast I'm going off of:

Extended forecast for Whistler - Blackcomb.
Saturday..Snow. Snowfall accumulation 25 cm. Freezing level 1600 metres.
Sunday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1300 metres.
Monday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1000 metres.

I'd say that looks very nice

And yes, the mountain has recovered. They opened 35% more terrain now and have 85% of the mountain open. If you stick to the top of both mountains, you'll be a very happy.
I sure hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'll be there if things are like you say.
post #11 of 30
As of 1:32 PM PST

Friday..Mainly sunny with increasing afternoon cloudiness. 30 percent
chance of flurries in the evening. Alpine high minus 2. Freezing
level rising to 1500 metres. Mountain top winds light rising to
southeast 20 in the evening.

Extended forecast for Whistler - Blackcomb.
Saturday..Snow. Snowfall accumulation 20 to 30 cm. Windy. Freezing
level 800 metres rising to 1600 metres.
Sunday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing
level 1300 metres.
Monday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing
level 1000 metres.

Might be a windy hike up the Flute on saturday.
post #12 of 30
i went into backcountry today into flute and past into oboe. Flute shoulder is very skied out as is Pigs Fancy etc. I've never seen so many gorbies hiking into the backcountry boot packing up skins tracks. Coverage is good
post #13 of 30
Isn't Flute considered "Inbounds" this year. I saw a few ads mentioning it early this season.
post #14 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by ski_rick
Isn't Flute considered "Inbounds" this year. I saw a few ads mentioning it early this season.
yes and its so very very sad
post #15 of 30
Whistler March 20/2005, and March 24, 2005


Bryce on Ratfink. Noone is around to ski the slopes as the highway is shut due to a landslide so we get to farm pow inbounds



Sharon on Piccolo. Even a few days after the new snow - there is still nice coverage



Sharon on Oboe

post #16 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasmen
Extended forecast for Whistler - Blackcomb.
Saturday..Snow. Snowfall accumulation 25 cm. Freezing level 1600 metres.
Sunday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1300 metres.
Monday..Periods of snow. Snowfall accumulation 5 to 10 cm. Freezing level 1000 metres.
Isn't that 3000, 4000 and 5000 feet for freezing levels?

If so, wouldn't that mean steady rain from mid-mountain down to the base?
post #17 of 30
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
If so, wouldn't that mean steady rain from mid-mountain down to the base?
yes. so?
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by LeeLau
yes. so?
So, if the rain begins between 3,000 and 5,000 feet, then base area is soaked in rain, 1/2 the mountain is in rain, the upper-alpine snow is heavy or sleet, and snow from the Roundhouse down is melted, again.

I'm not saying it's not better than no snow. Given the recent past, any snow is good snow. Only, the phrase: "very, very nice", may not be the most agreed-upon description for these conditions.
post #19 of 30
lower mountain is a writeoff anyway. The rain will get the mountainbiking going. Like you said, any snow is better then no snow and if the snow's so deep and wet I have to straightline 40 degree slopes to get some pow then so be it.
post #20 of 30
I think the Captain has gotten so much enjoyment out of Whistler's horrible season that he's having a tough time accepting that conditions don't completely suck there anymore.
post #21 of 30
Actually Pheenster, the situation is inverse. I live close to Whistler and would LOVE it if the conditions weren't wet and rocky on days I could go there (weekends). Hence, my inquiry regarding the rain level.

If you've noticed a tone in my comments regarding W/B, those are exclusively directed towards Intrawest (check my previous posts if you wish), a corporation which I feel has pursued an unbalanced approach towards development of the region.

That's my personal opinion, which you're free to disagree with.

With respect to the mountains themselves, as I've said frequently, W/B boasts some of the greatest terrain and most awesome natural beauty in the world.

In the 4 years I lived at Whistler, I earned a healthy respect and awe for region. As I mentioned on another post, I'm considering retirement there.

BTW, the local people there are also some of the finest folks I've met. True mountaineers who respect Whistler's natural treasures.
post #22 of 30
I have indeed noticed a tone, which is what motivated my post. I may have worded that response a little strongly, and for that I apologize.

However, I do think you need to go back and look at that tone in some of your posts. Your anti-IW feelings may have influenced the content more than you realize.

For myself, I don't have an opinion on IW one way or they other. I will note that they were at least offering reduced lift tickets and free lessons while conditions were bad, while certain other mountains in the Vancouver area were at times charging full freight for a couple of rocky runs.

Chris
post #23 of 30
Pheenster: You may be right regarding my tone in other posts. I'm too lazy to look them up so I'll accept your conclusions.

I do adore Whistler, which is perhaps the major reason I'm disenchanted with Intrawest. I lived there before they came, and what's transpired since isn't my cup of tea.

It's the conceit of every "local" that the area is "theirs". I'm no different.

When one beholds the current state of condo-mania, shop-till-you-drop storefronts, and latte shops on every corner, it's difficult to reconcile with what was once a majestic, peaceful, sublime environment.

Some people are drawn towards high-priced "Disneyland" resorts, with the associated amusements and comforts, and some are drawn to a more primal astheatic. Everyone's free to vote with their funds.

Of course, the primal majesty is still there. You just have squint your eyes a bit.

I'll still give Intrawest some of my money, if the conditions warrant the 3 hr. treck.

BTW, my father once was head contractor on a re-model of Joe Hussein's (chairman of Intrawest) home in West Vancouver. By my fathers account, he's a total gentleman and class act.
post #24 of 30
Creekside gondola this morning, lots of snow, good stuff. Alpine didn't open, t-bars did. some was gotten today.

excuse the english, or lack of (Dusty's apres may be contributing)


post #25 of 30
nice
post #26 of 30
Yesterday was great. It got a lot colder up in the Alpine which dried out the snow. I spent the day doing laps in Harmony, then out to Flute. Bell to Bell, first day doing that in a while.

And it's snowing again, peak to valley. Not much new accumulation, but we've been getting a bit each night, so it's all pretty good right now.
post #27 of 30
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Strato

Some people are drawn towards high-priced "Disneyland" resorts, with the associated amusements and comforts, and some are drawn to a more primal astheatic. Everyone's free to vote with their funds.
What is "Disneyland" about Whistler? No one had the foresight to build a Banff Springs 100 years ago? It isn't a tiny rustic town?

Where in your "more primal aesthetic" does one get breakfast? Or a book for someone in a cast? Where can you receive money sent from overseas? Or anything? If you happen to live there it would be great to have nothing but lifts, but most people don't, so they need certain things to be available.

You should be happy for all the visitors, they come and leave, but what if they stayed - imagine your complaining then!
Mom and pop operations are great, but that isn't how history unfolded at Whistler. For a big business I think they've done things pretty well from an aesthetic point-of-view.
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
For a big business I think they've done things pretty well from an aesthetic point-of-view.
OldSchool: Your point of view is valid, and obviously shared by many. Intrawest has a history of success.

It's simply a personal point of view. I feel it's overdone, you don't.

Earlier this year I encounted a deflating experience with IW. I wanted to ski locally, and Whistler is an option ( 2 1/2 hrs away). Local conditions were terrible, and the W/B website proclaimed "We've Got Snow", showing a front-page photo of a boarder buried up to his neck in snow. Enticing!

However, posts and photos from Bears here at the time painted a starkly different picture; brown dirt on most runs from mid-mountain down.

When I asked the people at Whistler about the discrepency, one of their PR ladies told me they get so excited about snow that they just love to put pictures of it on their website.

In other words, the photo and headline were profoundly misleading. They just wanted warm bodies.

The word "rain" never appears on the snow report. "Freezing Levels" are mentioned, but you need to know the altitudes and do the math yourself. "Snow Level" measurements aren't useful, because they don't seem related to skiing conditions (at the time, a base of 48 inches was represented).

Mr. Baker, by contrast, also wants warm bodies, but admits when conditions aren't great, and sometimes suggests bringing rock skis.

When the rush for cash exceeds integrity, trust and support are difficult to uphold.
post #29 of 30
17" last night!!!
post #30 of 30
I know - it's fabulous!!

We're skiing this weekend - finally!
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