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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks
Hell, my wife
Your wife is Hell? I hope she doesn't read this forum! :
post #32 of 54
Cirquerider: I have a pass at Kirkwood and hope to get up there at least one more day. A buddy is trying to talk me into going back to Utah, however, for one more weekend. We will see. This next weekend I am "stuck" in Santa Cruz so the weekend of April 22-24 is the next time I can demo/ride.
post #33 of 54
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
724 Pro Sidecut: 115-77-104 Radius: 22.1m
[font=Arial][font=Arial][font=Verdana][size=2]AC4 Sidecut: 125-82-110 Radius 17.8m
Anyone have specs on the AC3?
post #34 of 54
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
724 Pro Sidecut: 115-77-104 Radius: 22.1m
[font=Arial][font=Arial][font=Verdana][size=2]AC4 Sidecut: 125-82-110 Radius 17.8m
Anyone have specs on the AC3?

Also, at what length are those specs? Radius changes a huge amount when width is constant and length changes.
post #35 of 54
I just ordered the 177 AC4, piston bindings, opting for a wider but slightly shorter ski. I'll post again when I can get up to Mammoth for some spring skiing.


FWIW, I think the AC3 is similar to the 724 Pro with similar dimensions.

It'll be a week or 2 before I can clear baseball calendars (for the kids) and get up skiing.
I Love California

Chris
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by head_wall
Your wife is Hell? I hope she doesn't read this forum! :
No, my wife isn't "Hell", but she thinks my passion for skiing is!:


Anyway....

AC3: 116-74-102
PRO: 115-77-104
EXP: 114-72-102
AC4: 125-82-110

Radius: 156cm (13.2m), 163(14.8), 170(16.5), 177(18.1), 184(19.9), 191(21.7)

The AC3 is much quicker than the PRO or the EXP IMHO. Also it skis more like the EXP than the PRO.

Also the metal inside is different. In the PRO and the EXP there was a sheet of spring steel. In the AC4 and AC3, the spring steel in perforated and interwoven with a fiberglass weave and epoxy, making the spring steel (and therefore the ski) more lively.

Seek for your personal "Mantra" (130-94-113), 184cm (25.5m).:

HB
post #37 of 54

170 or 177cm Any thoughts

I'm looking for advice:
I'm coming off of a 724 Pro 177cm. Loved the ski, solid and cut through the west coast crud well for me. Looking at the AC4s, or the Atomic B5s. Looks like the AC4s a bigger ski than the 724 - 125-82-110 compared to the 724's - 115-77-104. I'm 5'4 & weigh enough. Double Black warm up runs, & go from there. Like the bowls, the trees and crud. No thanks to big cut up mogul runs. 90% off piste skiing, basically every run is off piste until I hit the line at the bottom.

I thought the 724 was an awesome ski. I could handle everything the 177cms could give me, but I wouldn't want to go much bigger. So the question is: 170 or 177. Whistler skiier - (don't get out much). Ski 40-50 days / season.

Thanks!
post #38 of 54
STSG, what is "weighing enough"? In other words, will you tell us what you weigh? It would make a difference in ski length selection.
post #39 of 54
I'm 180lbs, 5'11" ski 65+ days a season. I ski the AC4 in 170 with motion binding. At 5'4" I know your at a big hill but I would tell you go short. This ski has a lot of quick turns in it for it's size. My 6' 250lb buddy has the 724 in 177cm. If you want a fat powder ski, try the Salomon Gun. I bought a pair in 175cm the end of last season, to replace the Pocket Rockets. Light, tossable fun ski.

The B5 is a heavy ski IMO I get all the performance I demand out of the AC4 without the weight.
post #40 of 54
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Originally Posted by oboe View Post
STSG, what is "weighing enough"? In other words, will you tell us what you weigh? It would make a difference in ski length selection.
You're asking a female for her weight? Good luck!
post #41 of 54
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Originally Posted by SeaToSkyGirrl View Post
I'm looking for advice:
I'm coming off of a 724 Pro 177cm. Loved the ski, solid and cut through the west coast crud well for me. Looking at the AC4s, or the Atomic B5s. Looks like the AC4s a bigger ski than the 724 - 125-82-110 compared to the 724's - 115-77-104. I'm 5'4 & weigh enough. Double Black warm up runs, & go from there. Like the bowls, the trees and crud. No thanks to big cut up mogul runs. 90% off piste skiing, basically every run is off piste until I hit the line at the bottom.

I thought the 724 was an awesome ski. I could handle everything the 177cms could give me, but I wouldn't want to go much bigger. So the question is: 170 or 177. Whistler skiier - (don't get out much). Ski 40-50 days / season.

Thanks!
I haven't skied the AC4's, but I can tell you that you'll want nothing bigger than a 162 cm, likely a 152 cm, in the Atomic B5's (assuming you're referring the Metrons and not the SX's).

I have the 172's, but could get by the with 162's. The M B5's are loads of fun, but they demand their pound of flesh. My legs are jelly by 2:00 pm.

I've been checking-out the new AC4's in the shops. This is a hefty, stiff ski. I'm 200 lbs, 6'1", and I'd probably buy the 177 cm.

In your case, the 170 would be maximum size, and should possibly consider the 163.
post #42 of 54
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato View Post
You're asking a female for her weight? Good luck!
It's a fact! Age, height, weight - they are FACTS. Is there some point in keeping these facts in the closet?
post #43 of 54
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Originally Posted by oboe View Post
It's a fact! Age, height, weight - they are FACTS. Is there some point in keeping these facts in the closet?
Hey, don't ask me!

I didn't invent the female gender, with all associated unfathomables.:

If you figure it out, please let the rest of us know.
post #44 of 54
For about a decade after divorce, I was a born again batchelor. In my ever present search for another significant other, I floated and replied to many, many, many, many personal ads. No average or underweight woman ever declined to state her weight. A few (and they have my respect) very large women stated their weight as a fact. In my own experience, the significant difference was not the weight but the attitude.

If the person posting chooses not to post her weight, then the advice she receives will be worth what she gave for it. Please excuse me, my feelings on this subject are strong, and I obviously am far more than biased. That said, I'll sit down and shut up (for a while).
post #45 of 54
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Originally Posted by oboe View Post
If the person posting chooses not to post her weight, then the advice she receives will be worth what she gave for it.
Understood, and agreed!

It's like visiting a doctor. If you want good advice, don't be coy.

If an avid skier female is shy about her weight, it's usually not because they're obese.

When I was a youth at Whistler, our crowd hung-out with Betsy Clifford, Canada's then-Olympic hope for skiing gold.

She was a big girl, but it was 100% frightening muscle. A passionate embrace from that filly would have crushed my ribs.
post #46 of 54
ooh! ooh! S&M right here on our web site!
post #47 of 54
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ooh! ooh! S&M right here on our web site!
Naww - nothing so colorful. Just a lot of beer, and the desire to be "affectionate".

I knew when I was outta my league.
post #48 of 54
145lbs
5'9"
Level 8-9
Ex-high school racer
Ski Summit County

If I were to go with the AC4s would the 170s or 177s be a better fit. It seems like people in general are opting for a slightly longer length, so would that put me in the 177cm ball park?
post #49 of 54
Where do you ski?

Go shorter not longer, at least demo it in 170 or 163, your light.
post #50 of 54
I tend to ski Copper Mountain, though I'd like somethin I could take anywhere.

I'm about a 60/40 ...off-piste/piste.
post #51 of 54
I agree with MC, 170 at the most. Perhaps 163. The AC-4 is a burly ski. It won't be a problem with your skill level, but at your weight, it will be hard work to flex a long pair in softer snow.

SJ
post #52 of 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post
No, my wife isn't "Hell", but she thinks my passion for skiing is!:


Anyway....

AC3: 116-74-102
PRO: 115-77-104
EXP: 114-72-102
AC4: 125-82-110

Radius: 156cm (13.2m), 163(14.8), 170(16.5), 177(18.1), 184(19.9), 191(21.7)

The AC3 is much quicker than the PRO or the EXP IMHO. Also it skis more like the EXP than the PRO.

Also the metal inside is different. In the PRO and the EXP there was a sheet of spring steel. In the AC4 and AC3, the spring steel in perforated and interwoven with a fiberglass weave and epoxy, making the spring steel (and therefore the ski) more lively.

Seek for your personal "Mantra" (130-94-113), 184cm (25.5m).:

HB
Love your comparisons!

Any chance you can also compare to the G3, G4? I'm currently on the G20W 168 and looking to replace (finally). Not looking for a groomer ski - I have bunches of those!
post #53 of 54
volklgirl, wow G20's that was some time ago. I had both the G30 and G31.

You should try the AC3 and AC4 in 163 if your ready to move up and improve your skills with a few lessons.

If you stay on the groomers the AC3 may be a better choice.

PS I looking forward to getting out on my AX3's next weekend (Nov 19) at Okemo. Can't ski Saturday, it's a training day for us.
post #54 of 54
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
volklgirl, wow G20's that was some time ago. I had both the G30 and G31.

You should try the AC3 and AC4 in 163 if your ready to move up and improve your skills with a few lessons.

If you stay on the groomers the AC3 may be a better choice.

PS I looking forward to getting out on my AX3's next weekend (Nov 19) at Okemo. Can't ski Saturday, it's a training day for us.
OK, gotta laugh!

Max Cap.;
The G20 was my first shaped ski and has since been relegated to crud/pow only. Don't need a groomer ski cuz I currently own: P60 SL, P60 GC Motion, Racetiger GS, and 1st year 6*. I'm pretty sure I've 'moved up' .

Have fun next weekend! I'm seriously jealous.
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