Never Skied the East - Am I Missing Out? - Page 4

Wow, how sad to see a truly interesting thread degenerate to this. I'm pretty sure the consensus here has been: If you live out West, don't cancel a Western trip and replace it with an Eastern trip, just squeeze in the visit if you already have a reason to come East. No one is saying it's BETTER here, just DIFFERENT. Sheez.

Perhaps when Jersey Tom becomes a dentist, he'll move out West so we don't have to hear about how much he hates skiing in the East. :

Alfonse, I don't think you can convince him that MRG is a place worth skiing. But do you really want him there anyway? He sounds kinda mean...maybe all that Jersey smog has gone to his head. He could be unstable or something. Maybe he'll bring a blowtorch and melt the frozen waterfall on Paradise. Or he'll attach himself to a groomer to plow down the moguls. Or worse than that: Figure out a way to put fake snow on MRG's terrain or even cut down all the trees in an effort to create his own woods shot. :

Thatsagirl

10-12 days per year averages out to something like this:

Jackson Hole x18 days
Alta x6
Snowbird x6
Snowmass x5
Aspen Highlands x7
Aspen Mountain x2
A-Basin x2
Copper x3
Breck x4
Vail x3
Loveland x1
Telluride x12
Park City x18
Steamboat x12
Red Mountain, BC x6
Cortina x6
Killington x14
Stowe x6
Mont Sutton x5
Jay Peak x1
Blue Mountain x20
Belleayre x15
Hunter x1



Obviously I have no clue as to what I'm talking about.
And obviously I prolly suck at skiing as well.

You sound like the Long Islander that bought the property next door for his summer house........it was soooooo cheap! It was only $149,000!!!!: : :

Well, let's see........I spent about 20+ years in Spokane Washington, which is WAAAAY cheaper to live in than any podunk Vermont town, because there's no real jobs here, property taxes are outrageous, and the price of everything is doubled, even the crap they sell in Goodwill...duh!

I lived in Salt Lake City for a brief time. That's cheaper too, and you don't get much better skiing than that. I think I'm qualified to speak.

You seem to think that only WESTERN ski towns are the big behemoth destination resorts (notice you left out the Cottonwood Canyons because it didn't fit your "model"). I don't think so. You have a limited vision.

Yet out here, people say they can live near the ocean and be in the mountains.........how many hours do you drive to them? We live in Vermont, and it's a 2 hour drive to Okemo. More to get to Killington and Stratton.

Living in in Spokane, which is loads cheaper than here, for a 2 hour drive, I can be at Red Mountain in Canada, and for less time in travel, be at Schweitzer basin or Silver Mountain, both of which kick more ass than any pissant Eastern resort (they're half the price, too).

Everyone extolls the Beauty of the one single chair Mad River Glen. Well, if you're the expert skier in chunky, ungroomed and reportedly busy-on-the-weekends-so-don't-go-there-till-Sunday type, fine. Not everyone can ski Corbet's, or Tuckerman's, or MRG. (certainly not me in this state of friggin health). I don't hear a whole lot of YA YA's for anything else out here.

I'm with Jersey Tom. Pass it by.

Hey! Ease up on the Long Islanders.....


This thread is getting funnier and funnier........like Gorilla's beating their chests.....

I'd give you a link, but I don't know how to do that.

So, go to MadRiverGlen.com and on the home page at the end of the written text - click on: more on MRG. The next page has a great video of what skiing is like there.

Check it out. It is different than out west, even when it's good. It seems that the lines in the east are tighter. The powder seems to be more dense. Powder days still have ice below and rocks just get covered up. I enjoy it here.

Actually, this isn't an interesting thread. It's the exact same one that pops up literally every two weeks on this board, but with a slightly different title, the usual set of haters, and a new arschloch telling me that I would've been happier skiing on old, stale snow out west than the 40 inches of fresh I got in New England.

Actually, I agree with Bonni. Let's go out to the areas near Spokane... Red, Schweitzer, Silver, 49 Degrees North, Bogus Basin, Baker, Crystal, Alpental.

Oh yeah, THEY'RE ALL CLOSED FOR THE SEASON.

http://www.madriverglen.com/

Here's your link, Mr. Jones.

It's interesting that for $1750, you can buy a share of the mountain. It gets you nothing, and you have to spend at least $200 more every year "on stuff" from them in addition to that initial investment. You can sell it back, but only to them. You still pay the going rate for lift tickets. The purpose for this, I guess, is to keep it from being gobbled up by big companies? I'm a little confused. What do you get for your investment?

Yeah, JD, the weather in the PNW is like this EVERY damn year, isn't it? And we get all this beautiful powder in the East all the time!

Impressive 15 year history....like you said...you should be able to ski anything in New England in 5 minutes. I think you are a contender for the no fall no stop contest at MRG. You could represent the West.

Wow..I hope you feel better..your right I was refering to small western towns actually in the mountains. I didn't think it was possible to live in Vermont and be more than an hour to skiing.

Why on Earth do you keep living in places you hate?

BTW my little place in Vermont was under $35,000. Yes..it has indoor plumbing, electricity and even high speed internet...

Can you send me a Private Message letting me know where I can find real estate for $149k on Long Island?



Or did you mean $1,490,000?

Hey I live in New England. I sail weekdays and live at the beach on the weekends in the summer. In the winter I ski every weekend. Not too bad. New England rox.

I don't think 7 hours from Spokane to Baker classifies it as "near", AND WE"RE NOT CLOSED FOR THE SEASON, JUST UNTIL NEXT WEEK.

We now return you to your endless debate. Tune in next week for the liability of snowboarders without helmets.

not in my house.......or on my mountains....maybe stratton, I don't ski there....

I've done stream skiing, is it similar?

We go west so we can be among the best skiers on the mountain (and for other obvious reasons). You want to come east to be one of the worst skiers on the hill? No, I didn't think so! If you can ski Stowe you can ski anywhere.

Oh, please. Spare me. Skiing the ice of the East does not make you a better skier. It only makes you a better ice skier. So, your saying that if I go ski the East, I will be one of the worst skiers on the hill? BWAHAHAHA. I guess then that the East must be sending us its rank beginners, because they sure aren't that good when there are here.

Powdr

Yes of course people who live in the east and can't ski very well go to the rockies to learn. Rocky mountains are better for beginners as well as intermediates and experts. Everyone can ski steeper runs because there is no ice. Then the advanced beginner comes back and brags he skied a blue run that was as steep as black runs back east which is true but skis like a green run back east because it was perfect groomed snow not ice. Powder messes us up pretty bad too at least before shaped skis, I always could turn in deep snow somehow but yeah, many easterners cannot.

Here's one thing you can't do anywhere but in the East:

enjoy over 3,000 vertical feet of skiing in the morning and have dinner at one of the best restaurants in the country followed by a hit Broadway show, be entertained by some of the nation's most talented comics followed by some fantastic nightlife--all in the same day

I'm sure I'm going to NYC apres ski! Broadway, comics, nightlife whatever. Enjoy, I'll spend my hard earned dough on something else.

Good post Thatsagirl I have never been to Jay, always wanted to go. I fear it makes me a bad person:/

As far whos better guess what, there are gapers in the east and gapers in the west. Good enough?

A western skier would go east and have trouble carving a turn wear you have to adjust your carve throughout the turn 3 times because of ice/rock/roots. So they would say, man this snow sucks f this place(good excuse I guess)

A easterner would complain to management at Snowbird that there is too much powder and no icy fast groomers. Those are the stereotypes anyway. Personally I ski some tough mountains and I know they make me better because when I started skiing them I struggled. The west in general has better snow conditions which can be easier. That is until you ski down the Hobacks at Jackson Hole that is all set up from turning to corn and refreezing. I live in Vermont if it snows I ski in the snow and some nor-easters make it snow alot, not tahoe alot, but colorado alot. So I can ski powder as well as mixed conditions.

I love all skiing, you cannot imagine some of the crap we skied at Whistler two years ago. At one point we were pelted with shards of ice out of the sky. I thought I was being attacked by superheros our something.

If you make yourself ski in variable conditions on a tough mountain regardless of the coast it will make you improve. BTW I am heavily medicated from a bad cold so sorry to ramble....

When I went out west in college we did Breckenridge Vail and Copper. We headed to vail for just one day. It was a sunny day, but cold, like 20 maybe. The back bowls had like 2 feet of basically untracked powder. We were launching cornices and having the time of our lives. What amazed me is everyone there was complaining about how cold it was.....

Alfonse

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can ski one of the 19 ski areas around Lake Tahoe, till mid-day, have plenty of time to clean up, drive to San Franciso Financial District, do the dinner and take in a show at one of the six major professional theaters producing plays from Broadway, off Broadway and London. Or, I could just travel an hour to Amador and El Dorado Wine Country, or 3-hours to Napa. Not my thing, but I don't have to drive to Atlantic City to waste time at casinos. It might be better to skip the ski area and go to Desolation or Mokulomne Wilderness areas or one of the 6 national forests here. A day trip to Yosemite; or maybe visit the Redwoods; or maybe with spring taking hold, go rafting on the American River. We could choose to take in Old Sacramento with great restaurants, the train museum; or ...well you get the idea. California has the good sense to have great snow in the mountains, and a pleasant climate along the coast and inland valleys. So, ski all day, come home and change into shorts, enjoy a glass of wine or beer and BBQ on the deck.

Mr- Zin-wine, of all people, you should know better than to throw down that gauntlet.

No trip to NE would be complete without a visit to The Balsams -- its like having your own private ski mountain. Up in Dixville Notch where they vote before anyone. Hotel is not cheap but their moutain is very pleasant and totally empty most of the time.

you must be skiing at an ASC resort on the weekend, or perhaps loon, to be experiencing 30 minute liftlines. try burke, magic, cannon, wildcat, etc. for 30 second lines. liftlines have less to do with east vs. west and more to do with type of lift setup, number of skiers, and destination resort status.

paying more for 1/3 the mountain, again, i don't know where you are skiing but in the east we have several mountains with 2000+ vertical feet, which is fairly standard from out west from what i've seen. perhaps not as much hiking to OB, but c'mon. ski 2000 verts at cannon, burke, mrg for $50 or less, can't shake a stick at that.

if you're going to give reasons not to ski the east, at least stick to reasons that hold water. there's lots of natural snow skiing in the northeast btw, not all ski trails are man made. it may not be the epic powder of the west, but there's plenty of natural to be had.

For fun, I finally got around to blowing up the center part of JamesDeluxe's photo so that it could be compared to the classic Yeti / Bigfoot shot ...

Eastern Hardwoods Yeti recently observed at MRG (low magnification):




Same as above (higher magnification):




The classic photo of Sasquatchi Californica:




...no wonder MRG's trademark is "Ski it if you can". With something like that hanging around in the woods, I'm not sure I could. :

Besides ... the N. Calif. one has too much tip lead and has over-rotated his torso. He wouldn't even get through a PSIA L-I cert exam.



Tom / PM

i don't think any one has yet claimed that overall the east has better skiing to offer than the west.

:shock: :roll: this completely uneducated statement is so rediculous it is laughable.

how about skiing the presidentials? GoS, pipeline, airplane. tucks let's loose all the time and has killed it's share of skiers in avalanches...

Incredible, but true: that pic was taken just below the "Caveman" and "Sasquatch" glades at Burke.

Too funny..........and JamesDeluxe...that is just freaky

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And we are supposed to be impressed how?

Now, if you tell me that you could ski 3,000' vertical feet in the morning and ride your bike on Slickrock trail, hike to Delicate Arch and raft the Colorado in the afternoon, then l would be impressed.

Here is my original quote, with my bolding:

You sound like the Long Islander that bought the property next door for his summer house........it was soooooo cheap! It was only $149,000!!!

I live in Vermont in a podunk town. He is from Long Island. He bought the house next door to us. He thought it was as cheap as buying a car. He comes up here and treats his property like a summer camp (ie: like shit), and has no respect for his land or his neighbors. A quote from his wife: "We don't want to put any money in it. It's hard enough taking care of one house", when asked if they were thinking about painting it. It desperately needs paint. What the hell.........they don't have to look at it. :

Nice, huh?

MRG/Yetti

Physicsman, You have me laughing in pain!