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2006 Volkl Allstars

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Anyone able to demo these yet?

How does this ski compared to 2005 6 Stars?

Does the added 2mm chance the feel, and does the new internal binding system change the feel?

I'm an expert skier 5'10", 160 lbs

I'm thinking I could go as low as 161cm lenth on this, looking for short (not too short) to medium radius turns.

My interest has also been extremely piqued on the Fischer RX8's - anyone know if the RX8's are changing for 2006, other than a new graphic?
post #2 of 22
Apparently the RX8s are the same (and with not as nifty a graphic in my opinion). As for the allstars, do a search around the forum, I'm pretty sure some people have posted on demoing them...

-Craig
post #3 of 22
Just had a chance to feel the flex pattern in a store the other day. I compared them against the stiffness of the 6 Star. They seem to be a quite a bit softer than the 6 Star.
post #4 of 22
The RX8s are the same next year as this year--and as last year. I think the deal is to find a pair of last year's (if you can).
post #5 of 22
161 at 5'10"????
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by nippledeep
161 at 5'10"????
Welcome to EpicSki!

You're right. 161 for that size person (5'10"/160lbs) would likely be too short in the AllStar. 168, maybe...
post #7 of 22

Volkl Allstar

I was on a pair of Volkl Allstars last week. The 2mm width and new iPT binding system does make a huge difference over the 6 star. It is in between a 5 and 6 on stiffness, yet has the edge hold of the 6 star with more versitility. It is also much more fun for using all day than the 6 star was. Going to be a huge hit next year. For your height and weight I would suggest the 168cm. I am 5'7" and 175lbs and I loved the 168cm.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice all

looks like Allstars in 168
post #9 of 22
FesterSkis, welcome to EpicSki!

What're the dimensions of the Allstars?
post #10 of 22
SSH
Allstar: 116-70-101 14.4m @ 168
Sensorwood Core Spring Steel Laminate Motion iPT w/ P.C.O.S. Looks like a great 6 Star replacement if you have the money.



post #11 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Welcome to EpicSki!

You're right. 161 for that size person (5'10"/160lbs) would likely be too short in the AllStar. 168, maybe...
Well, what would you guys say is the right size for a 5'6" 165lbs for Allstars?
TIA!
post #12 of 22
lilac31, welcome to EpicSki! Have you tried them? My guess would be the 161.
post #13 of 22
If you like short turns go with the 161cm, but if you like to crise at all go with the 168cm. How aggressive are you, do you like more slalom shaped turns or do you like to let them run. The 168cm is not too much ski for someone 5'6" 165lbs. I skied both sizes and thought the 168cm was much more versitale for skiing all mountain.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by ssh
lilac31, welcome to EpicSki! Have you tried them? My guess would be the 161.
Thanks, guys. I am torn myself between 161 and 168. I started demoing them in 168, but the results were inconclusive: it was the end of the day, I was a bit tired and suddenly it became so foggy I could not tell the snow from the sky:-( Had to call it a day.

I am a fairly aggressive skier, but not overly so. Besides, I am 42 and had ACL surgery a few years ago, so I can't charge as hard anymore;-( However, I do like my skis rather stiff and do want them to hold me on ice/very hard surface. Prefer somewhat longer turns, but want to be able to make short ones when the hill is very steep, or in the trees, etc.

A dealer I talked to on the phone recommended 161 and he was very sure about it. None of the stores around here has them, so I will have to get them mail order.
post #15 of 22
I tried the Allstars in a 175 last weekend and absolutely loved them. I'm 5'10" and weigh 180. I did have the lingering question of whether I should try the next size up. (184s I think?). Am I crazy?
post #16 of 22
No, you are not crazy. Think of what length ski you were on about 10 years ago and then think of what you are on today. The 175cm would be more versitale for you than the Volkl Allstar in 182cm, but if you like to cruise and do not care so much about woods and tight places the 182cm is not too much ski. This ski is softer than the 6 star but much more fun. I know plenty of guys about our size skiing 189cm Superspeeds. Feel free to ask any questions you have about the 2006 Volkl's or any others.
post #17 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilac31
Thanks, guys. I am torn myself between 161 and 168. I started demoing them in 168, but the results were inconclusive: it was the end of the day, I was a bit tired and suddenly it became so foggy I could not tell the snow from the sky:-( Had to call it a day.

I am a fairly aggressive skier, but not overly so. Besides, I am 42 and had ACL surgery a few years ago, so I can't charge as hard anymore;-( However, I do like my skis rather stiff and do want them to hold me on ice/very hard surface. Prefer somewhat longer turns, but want to be able to make short ones when the hill is very steep, or in the trees, etc.

A dealer I talked to on the phone recommended 161 and he was very sure about it. None of the stores around here has them, so I will have to get them mail order.
Well, what did you think of the 168? What did you like and not like about them (even if you were tired)? Why do you think you might like them shorter?

Note: I am not a dealer, rep, or level III (or above) instructor. I'm simply an engineer and gearhead who loves to try new ski equipment and share my thoughts. However, I don't think that anyone can have any real confidence that the 168 would be too long, or the 161 too short without more information from you. Given your weight, I really can't see the 168 being "too much" ski.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
I just bought a pair in 168

I pray to god I get a chance to use em this year before all the snow is melted.......

I'll let you all know my thoughts when/if I do.
post #19 of 22
Am I the only one who wishes that the ski manufacturers would find a way of keeping some name continuity?
I just bought some Volkl 724-EXP (no regrets, I love 'em). I don't see them in '06, I wondered which of the new ones is the equivalent? And for that matter which of the '04 and '03 since I see those all over the slopes too?

Oh well...
post #20 of 22
For those that are a bit more value minded...the coming of the Allstars should mean that the 04/05 6 Stars will be blown out this summer.

Not being aware of the Allstars, I probably pulled the trigger too early on a pair of 6-Stars with the plain jane AT's ($600) but panicked a bit as the shop said that all demos were already gone as well as all new models at the 168 I wanted.

Had them at Killington for the virgin run and loved them in the spring mashed potatoes/moguls. Can't wait to go ballistic on them next year like I did with the demos earlier.....
post #21 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by janek
Am I the only one who wishes that the ski manufacturers would find a way of keeping some name continuity?
I just bought some Volkl 724-EXP (no regrets, I love 'em). I don't see them in '06, I wondered which of the new ones is the equivalent? And for that matter which of the '04 and '03 since I see those all over the slopes too?

Oh well...
The Unlimited AC3 would be the closest thing. I've skiied both, and like the AC3 more. Of course, I think I'd buy an AC4 over the AC3 anyway.
post #22 of 22
I'm 5'10", 153 male working toward level 2 part 1 instruct.
weak crossover move,outside left edge
thoughts on these or 4,5 stars
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