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post #31 of 48

Need Advice on possible RX8 Purchase

Hello Guys,

I am new here and have a few questions that I am hoping you folks can help me with. I have been skiing on tractional 200cm slalom skis for the last 20 years and am thinking about getting some new skis. I ski in New Hampshire and am a fairly aggressive skier. I really like to mix it up with some tight powerful turns on the steep stuff and long radius turns on intermediate terrain. What I like about my traditional slalom skis is the ability to make quick turns on hard packed snow when I want to but also the versatility to make large radius turns by using less edge angle.

Now that brings me to what modern day ski would suite my needs best. I used to work in a ski shop and was really into the scene up to about 8 years ago so the whole shaped ski thing is new to me. I have been told two very interesting things by ski shop employees that I was hoping to get some feedback on.

First I was told that shaped skis are not as versatile as non shaped skis when it comes to turn radius. Is this true? Secondly, I was told that hardly any body skis on race skis anymore since they have to conform to certain FIS rules when it comes to construction and dimensions which limit there usefulness. I have read about some skis being legal and that sort of thing but what disadvantage do race skis really have due to these rules? My first instinct when shopping for new skis was to take a look at the new slalom models but perhaps that is no longer the way to go. When I read all of these great reviews on the Fisher RX8 I don't see anybody mentioning the Fisher race skis. For instance how would the Fisher WorldCup SC or RC skis compare to the RX8s? I notice the SCs and RCs are on sale for a little over $300 which seems cheap by today's standards. Any advice you care to share would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

-Todd
post #32 of 48
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Originally Posted by tlougee
First I was told that shaped skis are not as versatile as non shaped skis when it comes to turn radius. Is this true? Secondly, I was told that hardly any body skis on race skis anymore since they have to conform to certain FIS rules when it comes to construction and dimensions which limit there usefulness. I have read about some skis being legal and that sort of thing but what disadvantage do race skis really have due to these rules? My first instinct when shopping for new skis was to take a look at the new slalom models but perhaps that is no longer the way to go. When I read all of these great reviews on the Fisher RX8 I don't see anybody mentioning the Fisher race skis. For instance how would the Fisher WorldCup SC or RC skis compare to the RX8s? I notice the SCs and RCs are on sale for a little over $300 which seems cheap by today's standards. Any advice you care to share would be greatly appreciated.
Todd, welcome to EpicSki! I'm glad to see that you've looked around...

I wouldn't say that no one here skis the Fischer race skis. In fact, quite a few folks here ski the WC SC, especially, as well as the Race SC. They are a bit more work to ski all day (in my opinion, at least!), but they do carve a really tight arc very nicely.

The RX8, though, may be more suited to what you seek. As you may have read, folks here (including me) have gotten these skis up to very high speeds without any issue from the skis at all. Personally, I've gone 45-50mph on them and had them be solid as a rock. I have also carved nice tight arcs on them, skied bumps, and pretty much everything else.

I think you should also get on a pair of Atomic Metrons if you can, whether the b5 or M:11. These may require a modification of your technique (a bit wider stance, for example), but then again, may not. They are exceptional all-mountain skis (yes, even for the east coast). Definitely worth trying.
post #33 of 48
Thread Starter 

Every day in every way...

Two days on the RX8's and I'm in love with them. I want to buy them flowers, maybe chocolates (then I could share them with the skis!)

Unlike the demo day, no quad soreness at the end of the day at all. These skis will do whatever I ask them to do. Wiggle short turns, hold long high speed arcs, hold on ice, carve in spring snow, push aside crud like it isn't there, carve around moguls (didn't do a lot of bumps yet, but they were much easier to ski on them then my SX:11's - whose tips kept wanting to take off into the air on bumps.)

The swing weight seems very light, and yet the overall weight and stiffness seem very strong - ie. foot steering them into tight little snaky turns doesn't require a lot of effort, and yet they hold at speed like a race ski.

When I pressure them during a short or medium radius turn, their turn radius tightens up dramatically as they go into reverse camber, and with any size turn when pressured they just dig in. Amazing skis!

One odd thing is that the white area of the bases have pink streaks now from either the base prep wax or the CH8 I used. I never noticed that wax stains white p-tex before.

Finally, a question. They came with FS-10 bindings, not FS-12. These are the red and black '03 model skis. Is that the right binding? The sales receipt says FS-12, but they are definitely the 10's.
post #34 of 48
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Finally, a question. They came with FS-10 bindings, not FS-12. These are the red and black '03 model skis. Is that the right binding? The sales receipt says FS-12, but they are definitely the 10's.
What's your DIN? I'd want to have the bindings that they said that they sold me, unless the 10 is better for your DIN.
post #35 of 48
Thread Starter 
Din is 6.5 Not sure what they "said they sold me" just what the receipt said.
post #36 of 48
I do not know if they retail for different prices. Since 6.5 is pretty close to the middle on a DIN-10 binding, they should work fine for you. On a DIN-12 binding, you might be getting close to the bottom-end.
post #37 of 48
Thanks for your comments Steve! This website is really fantastic. I can't believe the wealth of information and expertise that the members bring to it. You can learn a lot from the guys in the shop, heck I used to be one of them many years ago, but unless you know them well you can't be sure that they really know what they are talking about or that they aren't just trying to sell you whatever they have on hand.

I read through a bunch of your previous posts which were very helpful and I am glad to get your thoughts on my questions. I have been busy working and raising kids for the last seven years so my knowledge about today's gear is not very good. My six year old just started skiing about five weeks ago so now I have a chance to get back out on some skis. So when shop guys tell me that nobody skis on race skis anymore except people running gates I really don't know what to think. I know that wasn't the case 10 or 20 years ago when I first started skiing. From reading the posts and the kind replies to my questions form others I think that there are still plenty of people skiing on race skis because they want the best performance possible but that may not be what I need anymore. The RX8s seem to be a good compromise for me. When I skied on a pair this past weekend I never once felt that they were going to let me down the way softer all mountain skis that I have tried in the past did. Every time I stepped on them they were there for me except when I had them chatter on hard pack which as you know from my other thread I feel was probably caused by my technique not the ski.
post #38 of 48
tlougee, I spent quite a number of years skiing only a few days a season until last year when I took a job as a ski instructor in hopes of overcoming some of the financial challenges of unemployment. Whoops! Didn't help there, but I did get a lot more days on snow and learned a lot. This site is so amazing in that there is just so much to learn and so many people to help me learn it!

BTW, don't be afraid to try some race skis! I really liked the Fischers, the Nordica (Doberman Pro SC), and Atomics. But, give 'em all a shot. And, ski them as short as you can comfortably do (but no shorter!). At least, that's my advice!
post #39 of 48
I could have a good deal on RX9'S. Anybody tried them?
post #40 of 48
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Originally Posted by Guyf
I could have a good deal on RX9'S. Anybody tried them?
Great ski. Much like the RX8, but with a longer turn radius.
post #41 of 48
Well I just bought RX8's in 165 with FS-12 bindings for $700.00 CDN.
post #42 of 48
tlougee,
While it's true that the race skis give you the most performance, one step down is a lot easier to ski all day, forgives lapses in concentration, and gives you almost the same level of performance as the racing skis. I suggest you try the Fischer WC line. They call them "race" skis, but they are really between the FIS legal race stock skis and the RX series.

If you will spend a lot of time with slower company, get the RX8. The WC line will not ski as well at slow speeds as the RX8. The RX8 is a multi-speed ski; the WC seems to only like going fast.
post #43 of 48
During five days of skiing in Utah in variable conditions the RX8’s did everything I wanted them to do. By the end of the trip I was skiing them with a lot of confidence. I love them!

The only time my quads have gotten sore with the RX8’s was when I first got them and used the entire width of the slope to see how high I could get them on their edges. Extreme turning will produce considerable G-force on these skis. If you stay away from doing the high edge turns run after run, you can easily ski them all day without getting tired or sore.
post #44 of 48

Another RX8 fan

I demo’ed the RX8 two weeks ago in a 165 and loved them. Not only were they very quick edge to edge but they were also very fast. I ski with a friend who owns SX10’s in a 170. We usually ski side by side at very fast speeds. He could not stay up with me. He was very conscious of it and told me that I could not purchase these skies. Very interesting that they would be a faster ski.
Well, I purchased a pair on Thursday and skied on them Fri, Sat and Sun at Loon and Okemo. The conditions were the perfect test for these skies. I was the first one up at 8:00 and was skiing frozen corduroy. I just laid these ski’s over in GS type turns. The edge hold was incredible at any speed and I was ripping because the trails were pretty much vacant. I just could not find a speed limit here. I don’t know if I would classify them as damp but they never felt nervous. As it warmed up, I made numerous runs on angel street and the flume just hugging the tree line with rapid edge to edge turns. No skidding or scarving for me. Just pure railroad carves. Oh what a feeling and so smooth! As the day progressed the snow really softened up to junk status and started to bump up quite a bit. No problem with these skis as this was one of my concerns. These skies just ripped through the crud. No deflection or getting tossed around for me. They were like a knife through butter.
One of the things that I love about these ski’s are the turn versatility. Although geared towards a slalom ski shape, they are just as happy in medium and long turns. I have owned many skies over the years but have never skied anything that has put a bigger smile on my face.
post #45 of 48
same here. These are the best skis I've ever had or tested! this is definitely east coast ski. If you're 7+ skier and ski ec you shoul dget them
post #46 of 48
Anybody knows the stock edge angles on the RX8's?

Thanks,

Guy
post #47 of 48
Fischer uses 1 deg base and 3 deg side.
post #48 of 48
Thanks.
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