Originally Posted by Stache
Perhaps if there were not the gov't givaways the Wal-mart workers would find a job elsewhere or Wal-mart might have to pony up enough to get people to come to work for them.
Perhaps. Of course, you have zero evidence to substantiate that claim, and finding said evidence may prove quite difficult.
On the other hand, its very easy to point out that workers for unionized retail giants make more money doing the same job as workers for non unionized giants.
|At the risk of sounding tlike the old fart that I am...
Farmer's, farm helpers, carpenter's, mason's, and guys like myself who twenty years ago owned and operated a landscaping business in the summer and worked in the ski industry winters, if anyone can take five months off work because they "made hay while the sun shined" then saved and/or budgeted wisely GREAT! If they desire to do something in the winter to keep busy and want to catch chairs or blow snow for minimum wage or whatever the mountains are paying just to keep a little cash flow going Ok too.
"Or whatever the mountains are paying" is an important caveat. If mountains were unable to import their workforce, do you think that amount would increase? Or do you think they'd simply stop offering the profitable services that they enjoy tremendously low labor costs for?
|I am very pro-customer and not exactly anti-union except when the union does nothing to show their members deserve a better wage except getting everyone to agree to not work. This does not serve the customer well.
So in your mind, it is automatically the union's
fault for the labor talks failing. What possible alternate method of negotiation do you have to suggest? In the Von's case, the workers were offered massive pay and benefits cuts (ironically due to Wal Mart's arrival) and the management refused to budge.
When you finally see a strike, it is because many hundreds of man hours of negotiations have been fruitless. This can certainly be due to a stubborn workforce (note that I don't say union, the workers elect
their representatives) or
it can be due to stubborn management. In some cases, a mixture of both.
|Ronald Regan will always be remembered by me for his answer to the PATCO workers. "You don't like $70 grand a year?? Ok I'll go see if somebody else does."
Oddly, I tend to remember him for crippling air traffic control and leaving our skies less safe. Of all the things, no idea why that stands out in my mind.
|I just believe that the free market system brings out the best for the customer and union or gov't forced intervention does not bring better value to the marketplace.
The people making your goods in inhumane and criminal conditions overseas certainly bring you better value. I suppose its a good thing they don't unionize, eh?
Government intervention in exporting hazardous materials, or importing cheap labor don't bring you better value. Government be damned.
Why are the southern/western states so soft on border security and immigration law? No one wants their cheap workforce deported.
|If the Instructor does or gives something more than the customer expected then that should be recognized, if it is mandated by the Instructor or school asking or by union rules forcing a tip then the customer's appreciation is circumvented and the recognition for a job well done is totally Lost!
If you noticed a recent rather high profile and local case, you'd know that gratuities cannot be mandatory. The law does not support the idea of a mandatory gratuity, restaurant owners be damned. A mandatory service charge,
however, is just dandy.
If the industry decides it should be more upfront about which pockets their hard earned money is going into, I would suppose they've been provided a better value.