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No Skiing in Washinton

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Mt. Baker closed today, so there is no lift serviced skiing in the state of Washington as of March 14. I've seen many a year (most years at Baker) when the pack was well over 10' deep and getting deeper at this time of year. Some of my best days have been in March. What a sad year.
post #2 of 22
unbelievable

Come East!!
post #3 of 22
So who would have thought it?


No skiing in Washington....but there is skiing in England!
Yes...I do mean England (not Scotland...which is a well known mecca for snow-sports!)

Check it out....England's longest ski-lift:
http://www.skicarlisle.skiers.co.uk/

Jelous?
post #4 of 22
Its been a very tragic year in the Pacific Northwest. I feel bad for both the resorts and their employees. I stopped by one of my favorite ski shops (Sam Bennett's Ski & Sport) in the Portland area, and it looks like they've gone out of business. I have to wonder if they didn't get the ski sales they normally get at this time of the year.

To get my skiing in this season, I been fortunate enough to be able to make 2 trips to Lake Tahoe and a third trip to Taos. I have one more 5 day trip to Lake Tahoe coming up. I'm looking forward to a normal year in the PNW next year and giving the local resorts some well deserved business.

Crystal Mt recently gained approval to build more ski lifts and do more development (new hotels, etc.). It will be interesting to see if this year's disaster slows down that development.

It will also be interesting to see if season pass holders get some money back from the resorts. I know this is kind of silly, but is there any way that some of our ski resorts get some kind of federal disaster relief money?
post #5 of 22
Not quite!

Today is Mission Ridge's last day.

So ... as of March 15 there is no lift-serviced skiing in the state of Washington.

Okay. It's time to really put the screws to the Park Service and eliminate that silly little restriction against running a passel of high-speed lifts to the summit of Mt. Rainier.
post #6 of 22
Indeed a catastrophic season! I also feel bad for the ski shops and the resorts (with the exception of Whistler, who's marketing BS machine never paused even once to consider reality).

I doubt any resorts will refund the pass holders, although the holders may receive special consideration for next year's passes. Resorts rely on early-season pass money for cash-flow purposes. Expect to see some enticing pass offers this summer.

Although I also live in Bellingham, next year I'm considering a pass at Sun Peaks. $399 Canadian if purchased by Sept. 15th (that's about $320 US, for a top-tier resort). They seem to have more reliable snowpack and weather.

Phil, perhaps you should consider the same? We could tag-team for weekend trips!
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Dave86
I know this is kind of silly, but is there any way that some of our ski resorts get some kind of federal disaster relief money?
That might be possible. For example, I seem to recall that governors have at least sought disaster relief for the economic effects on bad weather. The effect of droughts on crops, of course ... also, I think, the effect of weather on fishing.

From what little I know, I think the relevant state governor usually requests the relief from the Federal Government. I'm not sure if that's a requirement or what. To the extent politics comes into play, I don't think that Washington State or Oregon are exactly at the top of the current administration's list.

I vaguely recall hearing something about a request for federal disaster relief in the '76-'77 season.
post #8 of 22
The weak dollar, crappy economy, and bad snow year had to hit many shops hard.

It sucks
post #9 of 22
SJJ: You may be right. But, can you imagine the political fireball this would be? Ski resorts claiming federal disaster relief?

The average Joe considers FDR okay for farmers and people with houses decimated by hurricanes or floods.

By contrast, most people consider skiing an expensive, elitist sport, and ski resorts playgrounds for the well-to-do (of course, not entirely true).

Still, I'd expect howls of indignation and outrage from the masses.
post #10 of 22
Can anyone say Lee Iococca?
post #11 of 22
Perhaps Washington should consider another recount for Governor if they want federal assistance!
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
Perhaps Washington should consider another recount for Governor if they want federal assistance!
What and run up the deficit even more than it is today? $34K per/person if we had to pay of today.
post #13 of 22
Did you hear the story on NPR about the "wonderful" winter in the Pacific Northwest? Everyone they talked to said it was the best winter they can remember. Obviously they are not skiers, but it was amusing to hear.

In the story, they did mention the impeding drought conditions due to the lack of melting snow runoff in the Spring. That is the only negative they mentioned.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Baker reopened today. We'll see how long it lasts this time.
post #15 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave86
Its been a very tragic year in the Pacific Northwest.

It will also be interesting to see if season pass holders get some money back from the resorts. I know this is kind of silly, but is there any way that some of our ski resorts get some kind of federal disaster relief money?
Two have made thier moves.

Depending on the pass, Stevens is giving a $50-110 credit towards OTHER on-hill purchases as long as you buy next seasons pass by the end of April.
Stevens was open 40 days on very limited terrain.

Summit at Snoqualmie passholders are getting next years pass at no charge.
Better than expected or even hoped for.
They were open even fewer days than Stevens, but there's other resorts under the same Booth Creek umbrella to cover the loss.
West: 16 days, 1/1 - 1/16, plus maybe 1/20?
Central: 9 days, 1/8 - 1/16
East: 0 days
Alpental: 2 days, 1/15 - 1/16 and no upper chair 2

No word yet on Crystal were ticket booklets will be good next winter, but it's still too early for passholders as they could reopen.
Baker's still on and off also.
Nothing about White Pass yet.
post #16 of 22
I sure hope ya'll get some spring rain or I forsee a long fire season in the Northwest. We will see the smoke in Colorado. LewBob
post #17 of 22
Didn't Crystal offer season pass holders an opportunity to ski free at Brighton? (They're both Boyne USA resorts). I thought I read that on the Crystal website. Pretty funny that we're still skiing at Boyne in Michigan. They play to stay open here until April 10.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson
Didn't Crystal offer season pass holders an opportunity to ski free at Brighton? (They're both Boyne USA resorts). I thought I read that on the Crystal website.
Yes, and Booth Creek is honoring Snoq passes at Northstar and Sierra Ski Ranch in Tahoe. THey have a good spread of resorts so they can better weather an off year like this one.
One problem that Stevens has is that Harbor Resorts only has Schweitzer Mountain Idaho under the same corporate ownership so not a lot of geographical diversity there.
post #19 of 22
Harbor mountain llc is owned by Harbor Properties and McCaw Investment Group. If you think they can't afford to absorb a few hundred dollars of season pass discounts, maybe you should do some research into who these people are.

Honestly, the best thing that happened to Mission Ridge was the decision by Harbor to dump them. Maybe now they'll dump Stevens and Schweitzer and stick to real estate development down in the city.
post #20 of 22
Oh, I'm with you 100% Harry. I also stopped going to Stevens shortly after Harbor bought them due to the effects greed had on the experience. There are enough folks willing to pay premium prices for non-premium product that Stevens has been able to stay afloat. It'll be interesting how things shape up next winter.
post #21 of 22

I keep hearing about no skiing in Washington ...

... these are from Wednesday at Mt. Baker -- which expects to get about 5 ft of snow this week:











Cornice Gully on Mt Herman
post #22 of 22
Great photos, Guest1, and good angulation on your turns! Technically solid!

Didn't you get a bit queasy standing under that cornice? Scratch that. Given your histroy, I've no doubt you can read a snowpack with the best of them.

BTW, I had no luck on acquiring AT gear in Tahoe. I'm scouring ebay. I'll let you know when I land the goods.

You'll leave my wheezing, wussy butt behind on any apline ascent. But, one's gotta start somewhere.

Inspiring shots!
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