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Dynamic is still around ???

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
So this past weekend I won a pair of skis . Here are the stats:
Dynamic VR 11
177cm
109-74-101
19m radius
“Designed in France. Made in Austria”
Atomic integrated 310 bindings

He he … I didn’t even know Dynamic was still in business! According to the wrapper the skis are 04/05 model. My Google search only comes up with last year’s lineup of which these are not part of. Again, I'm surprised to see they even have a website!

I would consider keeping them if it weren’t for the fact that I have 5 pairs of skis … one of them being a 177cm Volkl 724Pro, which are very similar to this ski (radius and stiffness). Oh, and the bindings only go up to 10.

Anyone know what these are about, or what they’re worth for that matter? They feel surprisingly stiff! Is Atomic making skis for Dynamic?

Anyone in the market for a 177cm Dynamic VR11 ?
post #2 of 17
Dynamic is under Atomics umbrella. This and last years lineup was a stop gap. Next years lineup is supposed to be back to a serious level.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
I just have to laugh at the fact they felt compelled to write on the ski
"Designed in France / Made in Austria"
post #4 of 17
Dynamic are getting pretty good raps from everyone who skis them. The shape is quite ugly, but apparently they ski very well indeed.
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ant
The shape is quite ugly...
The shape? What do you mean?

Actually, the ones I have look quite nice compared to the skis on the 03/04 web site (which are quite ugly).
post #6 of 17
Maybe they've changed them this year.
post #7 of 17
I'm still using a pair of Dynamic Mystic's (108-70-99@180) Best ski I ever owned. Now tired and retired to my Alpine touring rock skis.
post #8 of 17
For giggles I demoed the VR27s in 165 (I think, or maybe they were 170s?) about a month ago during my hunt for new skis. Previously, the best skis I ever owned were Dynamic VR27s at 200 -- black, with Yellow graphics and just the fastest skis ever.

The new ones felt ... grabby somehow ... maybe a tuning issue. Not really up in the leagues of Atomic or Rossi or others. But I understand that they have been bought by Atomic so we should see some improvement. I have to say, though, that the Dynamics were better the faster you went and the more you trusted the edges. Load 'em up and they were pretty good. But not really enough all mountain for a purchase. Very shaped -- more or less like Salomon race skis, narrow 65 waist with wide shovel and tails. I would not want to take them into deeper snow -- and actually did not ski them on Sunday when we had some 6 inches of fresh overnight, the pockets of powder remainin on Saturday were enough to convince me not to waste the fresh on them -- so I pulled out my old Atomics....
post #9 of 17
As I understand it, it's not entirely accurate to say that Atomic bought Dynamic. My understanding is that Dynamic went out of business entirely. Then, Atomic bought the rights to the trademark.

They're really Atomic skis, with a Dynamic brand name on them. For awhile, I think Atomic marketed skis this way in Europe (not in North America), I guess to make them more appealing to the Gallic buyer. There were "Dynamic" models that were, in fact, identical to Atomic models, with different graphics.

It's not entirely clear to me, but they (Atomic, that is) may have recently created some Dynamic-labeled models that are different from Atomic models. Anyway, they're restarting distribution in North America.

A final thought: at the moment Atomic has, among other things, the SL/GS line, the SX line, the ST/LT line, parts of the Dynamic line and the C:x line ... all of which overlap in the race-retail - race-carver "product space."
post #10 of 17
Don't the higher end Dynamic models use the Atomic binding plate?
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
The ones I have, the VR11, do have the Atomic binding plate.
post #12 of 17
I have already posted on Dynamic earlier.
The brand never went out of business even if a few years ago it seemed they could. For some peculiar reasons (sales around 80,000 pairs only) AMER (the Finnish owner of both Atomic and Dynamic) never let the traditional brand fall.
Long years the skis were practically identical with Atomics (you could easily tell which Atomic model corresponds to which Dynamic one) but there seems to be some sort of new independance lately.
They use the Atomic plates and even bindings.

Dynamic is also back on the World Cup. The young Croatian racers, Nika Fleiss nad Ana Jelusic are amont the best 20 slalom racers in the world.
I have no info as to which skis they really use and/or who and where manufactures them.
The Czech Dynamic rep says they are some Atomic-independent skis but you should never trust such people reporting on the skis they import .
post #13 of 17
Just a note, when I switched to shaped skis, I found some Dynamic XR 17's at the local Sports Authority store on sale with Atomic 412 bindings. As I recall I picked up the skis, bindings and Atomic race boots for a bout $300. They were 70 waist skis and made by Atomic. The 2003 issue of Ski Magazine had the XR 27 Model rated in the all mountain category. The difference between the XR 17 and the XR 27 was a metallic topsheet. They will be great "rock skis" as I accumulate my "quiver".
post #14 of 17
Atomic bought Dynamic over 20 years ago. At that time, France had very strict rules to protect the French ski industry. Instead of paying high duties, Atomic bought Dynamic to circumvent the taxman and sell their product under a different brand name. Over the years, more effort was spent with Atomic and Dynamic fell under the radar, but still had a pulse. Last year, Atomic started to pump Dynamic a bit more and is using that brand as a pricepoint ski. By using previous Atomic moulds and technology, good skis can be made and offered at a reasonable price.

The World Cup models used by the two Croatian ladies are Atomics with graphics to match the retail models.
post #15 of 17
yes
post #16 of 17
There´s a story about a young Austrian Anton Rohrmoser whose unfulfilled dream back in 1953 was to buy a pair of Dynamic skis - which he, a poor guy from a poor country (the Russian army left there as late as 1955) could not afford. Dynamics were a legend then: one of the first four important brands writing the beginnings of modern ski racing (Rossignol, Dynamic, Kastle, Kneissl).

Instead, he bought the whole factory 20 years later as the founder and owner of Atomic.
post #17 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkracer
There´s a story about a young Austrian Anton Rohrmoser whose unfulfilled dream back in 1953 was to buy a pair of Dynamic skis - which he, a poor guy from a poor country (the Russian army left there as late as 1955) could not afford. Dynamics were a legend then: one of the first four important brands writing the beginnings of modern ski racing (Rossignol, Dynamic, Kastle, Kneissl).

Instead, he bought the whole factory 20 years later as the founder and owner of Atomic.
Sorry, "30 years later" is correct. I forgot the exact year.
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