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Alternate for Sportlegs

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
Cal-Mag-Zinc w/Vitamin D

I looked at the ingredients in Skilegs, this is a good alternative. I used it for 4 days in Jackson and Targhee without one bit of leg burn. For less than $9.00 its worth the shot.
post #2 of 32
How many did you take per day? LewBob
post #3 of 32
Thread Starter 
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How many did you take per day? LewBob
I took 2 before bed and 2 in the morning.
post #4 of 32
I had good luck with Sportlegs on three days at Steamboat and another three day trip a week later. I am subject to real postski stiffness and seldom ski hard more than 2 days in a row. This time I was ready for more after 3 days and didn't even take much vitamin I (Ibuprofin ). I'll try some of this stuff next. Thanks for the tip. LewBob
post #5 of 32
I still prefer Skins! http://www.skinsusa.com/
post #6 of 32
Reading the ingredients it seems like a fraction of a multi vitamin to me.

I would wonder if the effect is more placebo and pyschological than due to the ingredients. On the other hand. it seems pretty harmless too.

Maybe I'll try it because I wake up soooooooooooo stiff after a day(s) of skiing. I stretch before and after the slops.
post #7 of 32
Phil and friends- Hey, if the cheap stuff works for you, that's great. Seriously. But if it doesn't, don't assume SportLegs won't work for you, either. Because SportLegs is different compounds of calcium and magnesium than the generic stuff. That's why SportLegs works differently, and performs differently. That's why it's patented. And that's why we confidently back SportLegs' performance with a no-argument money-back satisfaction guarantee.

So gamble $9 on Phil's stuff. Maybe it'll help. In double-blind testing SportLegs, we've seen placebos make an average 9% improvement. Your money won't be totally wasted; at least you'll have stronger bones. But if you're conservative enough to prefer a guaranteed minimum 50% reduction of your muscle "burn" and next-day soreness, then invest the extra $18, and grin all the way to the bank as you enjoy the best ski season of your life.
post #8 of 32
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Your money won't be totally wasted; at least you'll have stronger bones.
You are misleading people with that statement.
post #9 of 32
Jim, calcium/magnesium supplements are universally recommended to mitigate osteoporosis and strengthen bones. How's what we've said misleading?
post #10 of 32
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SportLegs
Phil and friends- Hey, if the cheap stuff works for you, that's great. Seriously. But if it doesn't, don't assume SportLegs won't work for you, either. Because SportLegs is different compounds of calcium and magnesium than the generic stuff. That's why SportLegs works differently, and performs differently. That's why it's patented. And that's why we confidently back SportLegs' performance with a no-argument money-back satisfaction guarantee.

So gamble $9 on Phil's stuff. Maybe it'll help. In double-blind testing SportLegs, we've seen placebos make an average 9% improvement. Your money won't be totally wasted; at least you'll have stronger bones. But if you're conservative enough to prefer a guaranteed minimum 50% reduction of your muscle "burn" and next-day soreness, then invest the extra $18, and grin all the way to the bank as you enjoy the best ski season of your life.
Its not "my stuff" and I just said it was an alternate. Is your product better? I am assuming it is..is it 3 times better (not taking a look at dosage)? I am not sure, thats a tall order. I will say I have never tried your product, I couldn't find any in time for my trip. But the supplement I did post a link to, I had NO thigh burn at all. I would be willing to try your product, PM me and I will give you my address so I can do a comparision. Do a search here, I am not shy about eating crow.

BTW, Was that your van parked up on the pass in between Jackson and Targhee?
post #11 of 32
Is it true that when you are young, the ache comes soon after the exertion, mid life, the day after, and "being old" means that the "big stiff" shows up on the second day after exertion? I'm, into the "second day" kind of results.

Sad news I guess, but it just means I can have more fun and then forget all about where the pain comes from. No more cause and effect! Old timers disease!

I am a big fan of WATER as both prevention and cure for these "temporary aches and paines due to exertion"

Regards

CalG
post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by SportLegs
Jim, calcium/magnesium supplements are universally recommended to mitigate osteoporosis and strengthen bones. How's what we've said misleading?
Occasional intermittent doses really aren't going to help that much. C'mon....

BTW, no joke: should you encourage fluid intake with this to decrease chance of nephrolithiasis?
post #13 of 32
That was our Jackson Hole rep's van. She was up skiing laps on the pass. Gale Dahlager is a 34-year-old hottie who used SportLegs to be the fastest woman to ski the inaugural Glen Plake Gunbarrel 25 mogul enduro last April. Gale says she had to put the brakes on to avoid passing event organizer Plake himself. Glen is, after all, a fellow SportLegs fan, and a terrific guy. Gale also used SportLegs to make the U.S. National Team in downhill mountain bike racing in 2003 and 2004. Teammate Marla Streb, 39, used SportLegs to win U.S. National Championships in 2003 and 2004.
post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by SportLegs
Phil and friends- Hey, if the cheap stuff works for you, that's great. Seriously. But if it doesn't, don't assume SportLegs won't work for you, either. Because SportLegs is different compounds of calcium and magnesium than the generic stuff. That's why SportLegs works differently, and performs differently. That's why it's patented. And that's why we confidently back SportLegs' performance with a no-argument money-back satisfaction guarantee.

So gamble $9 on Phil's stuff. Maybe it'll help. In double-blind testing SportLegs, we've seen placebos make an average 9% improvement. Your money won't be totally wasted; at least you'll have stronger bones. But if you're conservative enough to prefer a guaranteed minimum 50% reduction of your muscle "burn" and next-day soreness, then invest the extra $18, and grin all the way to the bank as you enjoy the best ski season of your life.
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post #15 of 32
WOW- Guess it's true: Everything IS sexier out West. Spam sure doesn't look that tasty back here in Ohio.
post #16 of 32
Nope, not spam. Spam is, by definition, unsolicited and broadcast. This is neither. The SportLegs folks should be able to defend their product in here, I think. Furthermore, I think it's a great opportunity to have a conversation about a product that may be helpful to some. FWIW, I had the opportunity to try it during ESA, and I will tell you that it has helped me. I have used it off and on since, and I certainly see the difference in my comfort level and my endurance.
post #17 of 32

A new believer...

I just wanted to post a thank you to those of you who talked up Sportlegs. I just tried it two days in a row, and my wife (a died in the wool skeptic) tried it with me on the second day of skiing. It really did do the job for us. I'm close to 60, way out of shape, and these first days of skiing tend to be painful in the extreme. Sportlegs allowed me to almost double my normal first day runs. My next stop on the internet will be to order some more! Thanks again. Bob
post #18 of 32

works for me

Dean Decas gave me some to try at a clinic at Sugarbush last month and I was actually able to keep up with him for half a day ( he was going slow )

I really had less burn at about 3pm, when I am normally wiped, ( took 4 caps at 9am )

SOLD!

post #19 of 32
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Nope, not spam. Spam is, by definition, unsolicited and broadcast. This is neither. The SportLegs folks should be able to defend their product in here, I think. Furthermore, I think it's a great opportunity to have a conversation about a product that may be helpful to some. FWIW, I had the opportunity to try it during ESA, and I will tell you that it has helped me. I have used it off and on since, and I certainly see the difference in my comfort level and my endurance.
I agree, hopefully he has a lot to add to the forums. I found Sportlegs on a trip to Jackson Hole 2 years ago, it seemed to work the first 2 days, but the third day I was back to normal lactic acid levels.:
post #20 of 32
Also worked for me, bro and friend on 9 day trip to CO/WY. Skied 3 then 4 full days in a row (travel day in between) and we were coming from sea level and not as in shape as we should have been. It really helped us hit the full days with minimal soreness. Compared to 3 days in Utah two weeks before without sportlegs, the difference in fatigue and burn was night and day. Personally I think it's a solid product.
post #21 of 32
While I find the stuff visibly and palpably effective , particularly in cases where the muscles cool off in between bouts of exercise,

I can't help but wonder if there is a Vitamin D ratio concern, particularly for wintertime use (well-bundled in the NE, not western bluebird).


Obviously, this applies to any multivitamin/antacid replacement as well as SL.
post #22 of 32
wrt Calmag - according to the Real Age doc, 400 mg (RDA of Mg) cannot be absorbed all at once. Apparently 200mg is absorbed in about 6 hours, so he recommends taking 200 twice a day. If you do the full 400, you can get digestion issues (diarrhea - it's the basis of some laxatives "Milk of Magnesia" for instance)

Dunno about Calcium but I know there are "side effects" listed for excessive intake including kidney stones and digestion issues as well.

I'm still working my way through my supply of 400s - take one every other time or so and at night, which kind of helps. Although I've "run" into a few issues let's say ....

Something to bear in mind when you're considering overload on some of this stuff - there are bodily consequences!
post #23 of 32
I've found that exercising at or near my LT (spin or road bike) for durations at or near what I'll do when I'm skiing does the best job at reducing leg burn while skiing....
post #24 of 32
Old thread bump time-

I tried Sportlegs in samples last year and bought a bottle this year, and I really feel like this stuff works.  The bottle says to take one per 50lbs of body weight, and I started taking 5 instead of 4 (i'm right at 200lbs) and it seems to me like that works quite well.  I don't bother taking them in the evening or after the day is over, but I may try that next to see if there is any difference in feeling.

I really think that they are clutch when you are looking to ski day after day after day without a break.  Or i'm a sucker for marketing. 
post #25 of 32
I'm glad that this thread came up again as I have found something else that works quite well. There are poducts made from the prickly pear cactus that work great for me. Two are Nopal Endurance and Pre-Pear (I think that is the spelling). They are very effective at reducing lactic acid for this old guy and you can buy it cheaply in bulk. A dose every other day, or even third day is all you need.

The magnesium in SportLegs sometimes upsets my stomach, so this is my go to product. Just be sure to take it a few hours before or after a meal as fiber in food will absorb some of it and dilute the affect. Good skiing, LewBob
post #26 of 32
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I'm glad that this thread came up again as I have found something else that works quite well. There are poducts made from the prickly pear cactus that work great for me. Two are Nopal Endurance and Pre-Pear (I think that is the spelling). They are very effective at reducing lactic acid for this old guy and you can buy it cheaply in bulk. A dose every other day, or even third day is all you need.



The magnesium in SportLegs sometimes upsets my stomach, so this is my go to product. Just be sure to take it a few hours before or after a meal as fiber in food will absorb some of it and dilute the affect. Good skiing, LewBob

Coolness!   Been wondering about the Pre-Pear.    

If  you get a chance to measure any wattage numbers vs. Heart Rate on a gym machine or something,  I'd be glad to know.

BTW, are you sure it's the Mg and not the pill bulking agent?
post #27 of 32
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I really think that they are clutch when you are looking to ski day after day after day without a break.  Or i'm a sucker for marketing. 

I think they're awesome if you take a break in the middle of the day and then expect to get back to it.
post #28 of 32

No scientific data, however I have always been subject to lactic acid buildup and stiffness and soreness for a day or two after a hard workout. With the Nopal Endurance I seem to recover much more quickly. I am 63 now, so the issue is more critical than in my youth. 

For instance, I got out on the road with my bike the last three days and feel good enough today that I will probably do some leg weights. In the past I would need to take a rest or light day today, especially as I did hills yesterday.

LewBob

PS, I have had trouble with Mag. supplements in the past if I don't take them with food.

post #29 of 32
I'm not familiar with the pills so can't comment on them, but I can say that I stopped getting lead-legs post-skiing (and other vigorous activity) when I started drinking or eating something with both carb and protein at the end of the day and at lunch.  I found the difference was staggering.  I usually go with a post-workout shake as liquid versions get the nourishment to your muscles faster, but actual food works too.  Chocolate milk is actually a decent option. 

Elsbeth 
post #30 of 32
Good call Evaino!

I try to drink a Muscle Milk or something similar within a half hour of ending my day... usually in the parking lot while taking off all my gear!
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