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Thermoflex liner pack out

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
How much of the liner from a Thermorflex liner (Raichle Flexon Pro boot) will pack out?

I recently picked up a pair but my concern is the boot is to small. Not in volume or width, but in length. I have yet to mold the liners though and wonder after doing so what to expect. Will a toe cap used during the molding process provide me w/a bit more room?

I don't want to go the next size up and end up w/a boot that is more voluminous than it needs to be. The boot is a 9 US/310 mm and I wear a street shoe of 10.5. I have an extremely narrow, low volume foot.
post #2 of 9
If you do a shell fit, and that gives you an finger and a half or two, you should be fine. The toe caps help too, but make sure you take them out before you ski, they hurt, ouch.
post #3 of 9
Before they are properly molded with toe caps on, your ThermoFlex's will be WAY too short. Don't worry. When heated, they will stretch to fit the length of your feet just fine. You don't need larger shells. After being molded, the ThemoFlex liners don't pack out much. I ski in the same size Flexon shells as you and have the same size feet. No problem. Have a good boot tech do the work and you will be fine. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ November 23, 2002, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: Lostboy ]
post #4 of 9
I just purchased a new pair of Icons with the heatform liners but have not had them heated to my foot. What are toe caps? Something they use in the heating process?
post #5 of 9
There are several things you can do to affect how much room your feet will have in a heat molded liner. Raichle uses foam-like toe caps to provide more room for your toes. They slip over the tips of your socks before your feet go into the heated liner. This results in the liner conforming to the larger toe area dimension created by each toe cap.

The other thing that you can do (that I'm aware of) to affect the amount of room between your feet and the liner is to wear either thin or thicker socks. Wearing thin ski socks will result in a close fit. Wearing thicker socks during molding will provide more room assuming you otherwise ski in ski socks which are thin.
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
  Wearing thicker socks during molding will provide more room assuming you otherwise ski in ski socks which are thin.

Shouldn't I use the same thickness sock that I will wear whilie skiing? I've noticed quite a difference the volume my foot takes up in a boot while wearing it inside vs being out in the cold. Maybe a thinner sock would be better thus compensating for this?
post #7 of 9
By Ski_steep,
"Shouldn't I use the same thickness sock that I will wear whilie skiing? I've noticed quite a difference the volume my foot takes up in a boot while wearing it inside vs being out in the cold. Maybe a thinner sock would be better thus compensating for this?"

Personally, I brought a pair of my thin ski socks to the shop both times that I had Themo Flex liners heat molded for my Raichle Flexon's. If you are looking for a bit more room in your liner then wearing heavier socks is a common practice since Themo Flex liners don't pack out much.

[ November 24, 2002, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Lostboy ]
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the tip- will probably go w/a thinner sock during the molding process.
post #9 of 9
I wear a very thin sock when I do my liners. Don't forget to scrunch toes to give a little room in the toe box too.
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