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straight skis to which new ski?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
6'2" 225# advanced-expert skier still on straight 205's. Looking to finally make the move to shaped skis. Ski midwest, with maybe one trip west a year. Fairly aggresive skier, long carvers and short radius turns, little or no bumps. Also teaching my kids to ski, so I need to be able to ski at moderate speeds at times. I am looking at: Fischer RX8, Head i-sl-chip, Dynastar Omecarve 9, Volkl 5*. Probably 175cm. Any thoughts, suggestions? Very difficult to impossible to demo these skis in my area.
post #2 of 18
RX8 or 5* also take a lesson to learn how to use the new toy's. Don't rule out something like the Volkl EXP or last years AX3.
post #3 of 18
The Fischer RX9 is easy to adapt to. It has less sidecut than the RX8. It is great for medium and big arcs, handles speed exceptionally well, and you'll be able to figure it out on your own within a few runs. A friend who has been on 205 cm traditional skis demoed mine and liked them very much. He didn't have to change anything he was doing, but I noticed that during the course of the day he started making changes which took advantage of the ski's performance.

post #4 of 18
Made the straight to shaped swap a month ago or so. I haven't seriously skied in ages, but decide to get serious about it this year. 4 hours of night skiing on my 200cm straight skis and I could hardly walk the next day. 8 hours of skiing on my new 157cm shaped skis and felt like I could do another 6 (almost did get a night ticket that day) without problems. If you get a chance demo the skis your looking at, I think that most of the skis that you've listed have a pretty good reputation around here, but I've found that it all comes down to personal preference/feel. I demo-ed several before taking the plunge and noticed a profound difference in performance between say a SL and skicross model.

BTW, I didn't take a lesson to re-learn how to carve. I simply skied all day and noticed that as the day progressed and the terrain got steeper, I was skidding the tails less... My second day with the new skis and I'm pretty sure there was no to very little skidding.
post #5 of 18
to any new ski
post #6 of 18
cowpix, welcome to EpicSki!

The question you need to answer first is this one: do you want to learn to handle shaped skis the way that they are designed to be skied, or do you prefer to continue to ski as you always have an find a shaped ski that accomodates it well?

From there, we can talk about turn radius, speed, terrain, and "feel" of the skis you prefer. You may also want to let us know what skis you have historically liked.
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks ssh, it's nice to be here.

To answer your question, I am not really sure, but I guess from a progressional standpoint, it would probably be better to learn to ski shaped skis the proper way.

Yesterday I rented a "high performance ski" they were Rossi super axiums. (can't find demos in this part of world, so this was the best I could do) The Rossi's were fun, but at 170, I thought they were a little short and a little soft for me.
My skiing consists of short turns on blue-black groomers, at good speed. But I also like to push the limits once in awhile. (hard to do in the midwest) I really don't want to think about my skis while I'm skiing, I just want them to feel like a part of me, and let me lead them wherever I want to go. Does that make sense?
post #8 of 18
Yes, it makes sense. I think you'd love a pair of Atomic Metron:b5s, if you could find them. They do just what you're saying. The RX8s are different, but elicit big ol' grins every time someone I know gets on them. Honestly, I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Of course, the b5 you'd need to ski in 162 (and it would be plenty beefy).
post #9 of 18
Originally Posted by cowpix
I really don't want to think about my skis while I'm skiing, I just want them to feel like a part of me, and let me lead them wherever I want to go. Does that make sense?
Makes perfect sense to me. I agree with ssh that you want to learn to get the most out of the "new" skis, but that doesn't mean you have to get one that will beat up up until you do. I think a high performing ski without so much shape would do great for you now and down the road.

There are a lot of great all mountain skis that fit that description. I like JimL's recommendation of the RX 9, as well as Max's recommendation of the AX3. Either of these skis would fit the bill for you. Nordica's SUV line (12 & 14), Dynastar's Ski Cross line (9 & 10), and Elan's M12 are worthy of consideration in this category as well.
post #10 of 18
Cowpix, I am not really familiar with the ski's that you metioned in your first post, however I also only recently transferred over from straight skis. The first ones I tried were very much a ladies ski, and at the time I was getting my ski-legs back, they felt pretty good. I then started to get more confidence, and started skiing a bit more agressively, and started to learn more about the style of skiing for the shapped ski. I started to demo a few different pairs of skis, and when I went back to the shorter soft skis that I first tryed, I hated them.
Spoke to a couple of people about this and realised, because we are so used to the power needed to get the most out of a straight ski, a stiffer and possibly slightly longer (than generally recommodended) ski will be more suitable to the style of skiing you are used to.
Of course if you are happy to change your style of skiing to suite your ski's well that's another thing. Lately I have been finding that I put quite a lot of effort into my skiing, but I love the rush that I get from it. Sometimes I wonder if I would have gone with a softer/shorter pair, I would be able to ski for longer, and not exhaust myself by the end of the day.

It's a shame you can't find somewhere to demo, as this is the best way to work out what you want.
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 
I made a decision and went with the RX8s, 175cm. Got a great deal from Dawgcatching. By the time I get back from a Kansas biz trip next week, they should be waiting for me. Then, if there is still any snow...:

Thanks to all who voiced an opinion. As I stated earlier, it's impossible to demo skis around here, so I based my decision on posts in this forum. Epic is great!
post #12 of 18
Let us know what you think once you get on 'em, ok?
post #13 of 18
You'll love those RX8s.
post #14 of 18
There are so many good skis out there.
post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
I would have demoed if I could. Demo skis are not available in the Madison area. Sometimes they have a demo day early in the season, especially in the U.P. of Michigan. But if you don't hit that you're sol. I was at Breck for 2 days in January, but I wasn't really thinking about buying new skis, nor would I had a clue what to demo then.

I am a pretty adaptable skier. If the RX8's are not perfect, I will learn to love them. Afterall, my wife isn't perfect either, but...
post #16 of 18
We won't tell her you said that!
post #17 of 18


go with the 5 star
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Well, I got my RX8's on the snow for the first time today, and...
My wife told me once that I was not allowed to have this much fun. What a great ski! I have always skied fast, but I found a new gear today! They just explode out of whatever turn you want, and hug the snow like you are on a rail. It took me a little while to break my tight stance habit, but I was rewarded. Just fantastic! But now the season is almost over...

Thanks again Dawgcatching, for the great deal!
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