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post #1 of 11
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Well, today was my 12th day on skis. Ever. After the second or third blue/black run I heard that little phrase in my head 'If you don't do it this year, you will be a year older when you do'. So I jumped into some black diamond Moguls. Four runs total through the day. First run I crashed 4 times, then 0, then 2, then 2 again. Luckily I was going pretty slow when I crashed.

Just curious though. Is it 'bad form' to traverse moguls? (No one else was around).

btw - I am a newbie, thanks for all the info so far. I had a chance to downhill twenty years ago in Germany but didn't. I'm catching up on that fast.

btw2 - I left my water bottle at the bottom of the lift near a fence. During my very first run someone stole it! GRRRRR.


post #2 of 11
As long as you're working on getting better and are not in someone's way, go for it. Some people (me included) gripe about how people who don't know how to ski bumps properly turn them into a mess. Well, what did we all do when we were first learning how to do it? And does that mean that we're not good enough to adjust to it? Just understand that traversing a mogul field is not the way you have fun on them and work toward improvement.
post #3 of 11
Originally Posted by dwoof2
Just curious though. Is it 'bad form' to traverse moguls? (No one else was around).
Yep. Bad form. But there's no other way to learn, so do it. Always keep an eye uphill to make sure no one is coming down at you.

Twelve days and you're hitting black bump runs? Nice.
post #4 of 11
I doubt you have good form on your 12th day wherever you are.

But if you have an open mogul run, a lot can be learned while traversing. Most importantly, absorption.

While traversing, go over the bumps. Feel yourself pulling your legs up. Don't bring your chest down.
post #5 of 11
traversing a bump field when there is no one else around is not bad form at all. However if there are people skiing the trail, then it is/can be bad form. What you want to focus on while traversing is the idea or pulling your feet up and under you as you crest the bump, and reaching down into the troughs. Anyone can start to flex this way, but the harder part comes from trying to keep the tips in contact with the snow. You have to try to stay more forward than you think, and keep your shoulders driving into your direction of travel (when traversing, don't worry about fall line, just commit to each bump). If you are having troubles getting/staying forward in the bumps, try using a reaching double pole plant, reaching to the top of the bump before your center gets there.

Most importantly though, screw all the bad form/good form questions/answers/opinions, what matters more than anything else is that you have fun and you keep striving to improve, afterall, we were all beginers at some point.
post #6 of 11
It is totally acceptable to ski a mogul run in such a way that you turn on every other bump, especially when you are learning. Zipper line is not the only way to ski a bump run. Slow your pace down and ski a round turn shape.

Traversing (if it is safe) is a good exercise to learn absorbtion. Pretend that you are skiing with a ceiling 1" away from your head - don't move up; instead, think of letting your feet drop into the troughs. Work to keep your body long - many times people compress and then never extend again.

Remember that bumps skiing is where we use a much more emphatic (blocking) pole plant and also that a lot more rotary (twisting, steering) movements are used.
post #7 of 11
12 days in and hittin the bumps....you go!!

Just be happy you get to learn them on shape skis and not as a 145lb 18 yo newbie in a pair of too big, heated, rear-entry boots on 200cm K2 Extremes (yes I was an impressionable 18)!! One bump at a time....then in a bit 2...then in a while try 3...etc, etc...
post #8 of 11
I agree with ^^^^^

Try to connect 2 moguls without traversing.
Then go for 3.
(and so on.)

The second you find yourself getting out of line, stop, and start over again.
And concentrate and nailing those bumps in succession with better form.
Traversing back and forth throughout the whole run won't help you one bit.
But rather, try to have some discipline and strive for the optimal end result.

If you feel you are getting out of line because your speed is too fast for your legs/form to handle, then try to really dig into the bump in order to slow yourself down. Think of it as coming to a parallel stop. Only difference is that there is a big mound of snow in front of you.

Wish you the best!
post #9 of 11
It's great to spend time on bump runs just to get used to being around them and not be intimidated by them anymore. In my first year of skiing, I had a couple bad experiences on some bump runs and was basically terrified of them. I wouldn't go near them. This year though I made it my objective to ski more bumps, and at least a few times during each skiing day I would do some. Guess what--now I love them! I find myself seeking out bump runs and sometimes I will do them several times in a row. I'm still not very good at them, but I have fun trying and teaching myself and sometimes I'm not too bad. If you like a more physical, exercise type of skiing, bumps are great.

The one thing that has helped me a lot in skiing bumps was something an instructor told me. She said aim your pole at the middle of the next bump where you're going to turn. Be relentless about keeping your poles moving forward. It will help focus your mind on committing to the next turn, and also helps you stay forward on your skis, because you can't ski bumps if you're back on your heels.

Good luck!
post #10 of 11

Congratulations! You're doing great for day 12.

It's perfectly ok to traverse across the bumps as long as you don't cut across in front of someone. We do this exercise a lot for beginning bumpers to help them learn retraction/absorption/maintaining ski snow contact. For many skiers, bumps are the most strenuous physical activity they've ever done with respect to range of motion of the lower body and lower body strength required. Traversing is a good way to "work your way" into these activities. It's also a great way to build confidence.

You can make up for any damage that traversing does to great "zipper lines" (which isn't much) by committing to getting better and helping to create/maintain more zipper lines in the future. Great bumpers can improve lines in the moguls by chopping long bumps in 1/2, shaving tops off of big bumps, etc.

BTW - sometimes I will pick up water bottles, coke cans, etc. left on the slopes and properly dispose of them. I try not to "Steal" other peoples stuff, but sometimes it's hard to distinguish between stuff that has fallen out of pockets, stuff that was purposely left and will be retrieved and stuff that was simply rudely tossed. Invest in a Camelback.
post #11 of 11
You have just brought back fond memories. My first adventure in moguls occured because I was forced to ski moguls on Powder Face on Mt. Washington BC (on the Island) in order to reach a nice high-speed cruizer run. I was told by a local the the size of the moguls was exceptional that year. I wish I could find a snapshot. You could just reach the top of the uphill mogul with you ski pole tip and at the same time touch the top of the downhill mogul at shoulder level with you outstretched hand.
I fell enough times, but the snow was powder soft.
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