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Top skin repair Volkl

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Just a quick question. A snowboarder ran into me and cut the top skin of the 6 stars. It exposed wood about 3/8 inch diameter on the ridge that runs over the top of the edge above the sidewall. What material is best to seal and repair?
post #2 of 20
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
Just a quick question. A snowboarder ran into me and cut the top skin of the 6 stars. It exposed wood about 3/8 inch diameter on the ridge that runs over the top of the edge above the sidewall. What material is best to seal and repair?
1 pound of snowboarder flesh would do the trick, IMO.
post #3 of 20
Clean the area well and fill it with epoxy.
post #4 of 20
NE1 is right. Epoxy will do the trick.
post #5 of 20
i have a similar situation, near tip of ski just before they arc, a 1 inch long hairline fissure has appeared on the top foil cutting across width of ski. if i try to bend back tips i still cannot manage to open the fissure. not being an expert ski repair guy, should i be worried, is it repairable or has the structural integrity been comprised?
post #6 of 20
ok coach ROFLMAO classic!! we dont hate all snow boarders just the ones in t-shirts at 20 F
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the Epoxy suggestion, but I really liked Coach13's recommendation. Will get some in there this evening.

It was a wierd collision. I was comming down Hogsback and Pistol to Gunbarrel at Heavenly. You have to cross the intermediate Round-A-Bout cat-track on the desent. I stopped above the drop-off onto the track and waited for traffic to clear, then hopped down facing uphill. A boarder 50 yards up the trail looked staight at me and turned directly for me and never turned again. There was no place to go to get out of the way as I was pinned aginst the high wall of the track. I caught him in a bear hug, but got blown out of both skis still standing. No one was hurt and he quickly departed. I didn't notice the cut in the skis and the missing top cover to the binding toe-piece until I got to the bottom. Marker replaced the cover no charge, so I just have to deel with the cut top.

Next time I guess I should do a gap jump
post #8 of 20
I've found the JB Weld epoxy to be a lot tougher than the clear type. It is an opaque white or gray mix. Don't use any five minute stuff.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Coach13
1 pound of snowboarder flesh would do the trick, IMO.
That's it...You da man, coach!!!!
post #10 of 20
"Next time I guess I should do a gap jump" Cirquerider

Nope, next time point your ski pole right at the bastard, (think matador) and hold your ground. Victor Q. Snowboarder will probably choose a different vector.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by fressen
Nope, next time point your ski pole right at the bastard, (think matador) and hold your ground. Victor Q.
That's a terrible option. You may ruin that valuable flesh.
post #12 of 20
I usually just use p-tex on the top skin since I have it laying around. Anyone know if that's a bad idea?
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by newfydog
I've found the JB Weld epoxy to be a lot tougher than the clear type. It is an opaque white or gray mix. Don't use any five minute stuff.
If you don't need a quick repair, ie you can wait over night or even better 2 days, use the slowest curing epoxy you can get. I use 24 Hr epoxy whenever I need to do a topskin repair. The clear stuff is plenty tough enough if the area is clean. I usually scuff the area with 100 grit paper, then apply a skin of epoxy. I have yet to have one pop back out. As in instructor you can bet I have lots of nicks and cuts on my ski's topskins.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by vinn
I usually just use p-tex on the top skin since I have it laying around. Anyone know if that's a bad idea?
It is better than not filling deep scratch, in this case epoxy would be much better. IMO epoxy will seal better and make the fix structurally more sound. the 24 hour type, like Dchan described, is the best, if you are worried about color you can get pigment to color match the repair. JB weld is great but i feel it is to rigid and can become brittle on top sheet repairs, where flex is an issue. just my 2 cents.


James
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Coach13
That's a terrible option. You may ruin that valuable flesh.
Or a perfectly good pole.
post #16 of 20
if you go with the flesh option careful of the nose ring....
post #17 of 20
I would want something more flexible than epoxy. How 'bout duct tape ?

By the way, I had a skier break a brand new pair of skiis on opening day many years ago. I took a jump right above me on a beginner slope-he could see me fine- and landed on the fronts of my new boards. I didn't notice one tip was broken until I went to ski off. Then it was too late to find him. Glad your's weren't ruined. LewBob
post #18 of 20
Anytime you see wood, get it covered. If you continue to ski with core exposed, the chances of the wood swelling will cause bigger problems.
post #19 of 20
I also have 6 * and did the same thing when I crashed, 3" gash to the wood: ,I had some extra glass and resin from re-doing the diving board,so I bought some color ( black) and laid up some layers and formed to the right shape,I also have a wood shot in the tail,the rough finish of the 6* must allow the edge to sit in one spot and destroy, or they are just thin....duno
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
Well, lacking the pound of flesh, went with advise by newfydog. I applied J-B Weld tonight...mostly to the hole in the skis, but also to anything else I touched. Pressed it into place with a sheet of paper and wiped the excess with acetone. Seems to seal well and the color is not so bad. We'll see if it holds up. Hey with chemicals like Bisphenol-A-polyglycidyl ether and aliphatic polyaminal polyamide, you gotta have faith. Sounds lots better than the school glue my kids used to eat.

Top skin on the Supersports is like a HDPE plastic bonded to the core. I would guess its at least 12-15 mils. It seems to deform before rupturing and can be cut, but it seems to be a pretty tough material. The snowboard edges also cut a gash in the toe of my boots and shaved some plastic off the marker bindings. So considering the circumstances, damage to the skis isn't too bad.
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