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Does Nordica make great skis ?

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
I have only owned Volkls and Stocklis and wanted to know if Nordica makes good skis as well . I want to expand my net and look into other skis and all the high end skis seem to have pretty good workmanship .
I have a pair of nordica Hot rods on the radar scope .
post #2 of 33
From what I have seen, Nordica is making a pretty beefy ski. I would not dismiss them before trying.
post #3 of 33
They used to be Kastles - lots o metal and very German
post #4 of 33
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They used to be Kastles - lots o metal and very German
Is that why they are all over the scene lately? That was one of the brand that I did not pay attention to anymore, and now out of nowhere, world class skis.
post #5 of 33

Nordica Skis

I have a pair of the Doberman Worldcup SL's. This is worldcup stock with the plate. The ski has more egde hold than anything else I have ever skied and it has unbelievable dampening properties. In comparison to the Atomic 11 SL it has slightly better egde hold although I never broke the Atomic loose. The Atomic generates more energy out of the turn.

This is the only expirence I have on Nordicas, since I have not skied any others in the line.
post #6 of 33
I have the Nordica SUV 12x and love it. It's a super fun ski. I am a fan of "big" skis that have lots of power...and I feel like this ski is made for me.

I also have a pair of Stockli (DP's) and while the construction isn't quite as bomber....they still feel like a ski that will last me a long time. I have 50+ days on them this year and they're as fun as the first day I skied them.
post #7 of 33
no, ELAN,
makes great skis for nordica(except race room stuff but mere mortals will never see that)
post #8 of 33
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ktrubin
I have the Nordica SUV 12x and love it. It's a super fun ski. I am a fan of "big" skis that have lots of power...and I feel like this ski is made for me.

I also have a pair of Stockli (DP's) and while the construction isn't quite as bomber....they still feel like a ski that will last me a long time. I have 50+ days on them this year and they're as fun as the first day I skied them.
I have owned stockli but I am considering next years nordica hot rods - vertical sidewall 123/78/108 - should be fun . My back up ski is the volkl superspeed but the superspeeds seem more front side - more towards the race end .
just trying to find a great carving ski that also does well in crud and light powder .
post #9 of 33
I have now repped for Nordica for a year.

I've used all the Speedmachine and SUV products. I also have a Dobie SL.

In a word I love the stuff. I have not yet been on the new Hotrods and hope to have a pair to try in the next two weeks. I have spoken to two other Nordica pros (Bob Barnes and Bob Booker) and they rave about the new skis after having tried the skis.
post #10 of 33
My far-less-than-expert opinion... It was also my first time on anything in the mid-fat catagory.

I have tried out the Hot Rod in 170 (I'm 5'6" and just under 170lbs) a couple of weeks ago on hardpack. Very nice ski indeed. It was unnaturally stable and yet forgiving. It carves (long and short) and holds an edge as good as any narrower waist carvers. Pretty fast too. I did not have a chance to try them on cruds and freshies but I heard that they are just as good if not better. I have not idea how they are on bumps/trees.
post #11 of 33
Checked out some Speedmachine 12 skis at a shop a few weeks ago while having some binding work done on my skis, and I was impressed with the workmanship (don't see many Nordica skis in the shops around here). I assume the skis had the factory tune. They were out of the wrapper and had the bindings attached but were new and in the rack with the rest of the skis. Anyway, the thing that caught my attention was the quality of the tune. The edges were smoothly polished with no diagonal lines visible from the beveling machine and they were consistently sharp--really sharp for a pair of skis on a wall rack. Also, the interface where the p-tex meets the metal edge was perfect, little things that I notice now that I've been tuning my own skis for a few years. None of the last several pairs of skis I've owned of various brands had nearly as good a factory tune as those Nordica's, again, assuming this was the factory tune. Have no idea how consistent the bevel angles were. Overall, I thought they were nice looking skis that appeared to me to have high quality workmanship.

The shop had them tagged as "aggressive carving skis for advanced to expert skiers" and I believe it. They seemed to have a pretty stiff flex. I've never skied Nordica's, but they would be on my list to demo if I were looking for a new pair of skis for here in the east.
post #12 of 33
just got SUV 14's from Rusty Guy, all the rest of the pros at our resort have commented how the skis have raised my skiing and speed at least a notch.
post #13 of 33
Gator, you inbox is full for PMs so here is my response to yours...

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Originally Posted by Gator
Great input .
Glad you found it useful.

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Originally Posted by Gator
by the way , what do you mean by how stable this ski was ?
Well, I got myself a pair of B1s (160) at the end of last year and have been skiing on them 60-70% of the time. My other skis are Volant Carvers (178) from a while back. Although I have found the B1s to be much more versatile than the Volants, the Rossis often give me the feeling that they are floating on the snow at best and it lacks the firmness/stability that the Volants offer me. Maybe that is attributed to the weight difference. I thought the light-footed-ness was typical of all all-mountain skis so I expected the same for the Hot Rods. The first thing I felt with the demo was the Nordicas hug the snow far better than either of my skis. Even when I picked up some speed and attempted both short and long radius turns in flatter and steeper, even and uneven terrains, the hugginess remained.
post #14 of 33

Nordica SUV demo

Demoed a Nordica '04/05 SUV 12 the other day, 180cm (I'm 5'9" 185 lb), wood core with carbon fiber wrap, lightweight ski but very stiff torsionally, fantastic edge hold and stable at speed, very carvy, very precise feel, but a bit wider and stiffer in the tail than I'm used to (Bandit XX 185 is my everyday ski). Maybe too easy to turn, a little hooky in steep bumps; I kept overturning the short radius turns, perhaps the low heel ramp on the bindings contributed to my backseating it. Long-radius turns were surprisingly good though considering the sidecut (115/70/99) Binding was a fairly beefy new Marker (too bad, with some lighter bindings it'd be a really light setup) with a flexible arm connecting the back and front. Would take some getting used to for me, but with practice could be a helluva all-around performer I think. Demo guy advised me to go shorter, like 170. I've skied lots of skis but till now nothing really modern (like the last couple years models); have a pair of '03/04 Atomic R:10s at home waiting for the bindings to arrive, thinking they'll be similar to the Nordicas, maybe more forgiving. Wondering how this year's Atomics skis compare, they'd put me on a 160 in the Metreon! Shape of things to come...?
post #15 of 33
Nordica has been around for quite some time, since the early 1920's, and they still produce top quality products. I have a pair of last years SUV 12X's and they truly rip.
post #16 of 33
I skied the SUV 14 this season and liked it very much. It is a powerful, damp, fast all mountain ski. I demoed all the Speedmachine and SUV line for 2004/2005 and liked them all except the SUV 8. I have a pair of the Hot Rod Top Fuel being shipped to me. The buzz on the Hot Rod line has been very good. I can't wait to use them.
post #17 of 33

Nordica vs Elan

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Originally Posted by waxman
no, ELAN,
makes great skis for nordica(except race room stuff but mere mortals will never see that)
Although this has been touched upon in several threads Nordica skis are not made by Elan. Nordica simply rents out the factory space. The R&D and technology are all Nordica's.

Nordica World Cup skis and boots are available at any certified race center.

But, thanks for the input Waxman.

And yeah, the Top Fuel's rock! Skied them this past weekend, very exciting!
post #18 of 33
I own the Nordica K11 GS (race stock), and have skied the K12 GS, Doberman Pro RC XBS and SpeedMachine 16 (2005-06 model of the SpeedMachne 14 with stiffer topsheet). I really love the way these skis feel.

I just tested Elan S-12, along with the Stockli LaserCross, and found the Stockli very nice, but the Nordica Pro RC and SpeedMachine 16 much more impressive and attractive to own.

Nordica skis are very nice.
Try them.
post #19 of 33
Here's an interesting review of the Nordica Beast regarding the ski quality:

http://www.skiersjournal.com/reviews-114.html
post #20 of 33
Thread Starter 

Nordica Hot Rod top Fuel

well,
I guess I am going to give nordica a try since I have a new pair of Top Fuels now ...
post #21 of 33
Gator: Check out the other threads on the new Hot Rod Top Fuels and Nitrious. People are foaming at the mouth for these skis. They appear to be the hottest thing on the radar for '06.

A few folks mentioned that the Top Fuels are quite stiff (racing heritage), but that the Nitrious are a bit more forgiving.

Both the Nitrious and Top Fuels seem somewhat similar in geometry to Atomic's Metron designs (wide shovels and waists), but with a less extreme sidecut.

Good luck!
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
Both the Nitrious and Top Fuels seem somewhat similar in geometry to Atomic's Metron designs (wide shovels and waists), but with a less extreme sidecut.
The Hot Rods are burly, stiff, fast, skis without alot of sidecut.

I didn't really enjoy the Nitrous skis I demoed.
post #23 of 33
Gator,
How are your new Top Fuels?
post #24 of 33
I demoed the Top Fuel in fresh snow at Okemo last Saturday. They feel like a GS ski. Not a all mountain ski. They are stiff and would cut through the 6-8" of falling snow. But they were not a bump ski. As long as you stick the the groomers they would be fine.
post #25 of 33
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I demoed the Top Fuel in fresh snow at Okemo last Saturday. They feel like a GS ski. Not a all mountain ski. They are stiff and would cut through the 6-8" of falling snow. But they were not a bump ski. As long as you stick the the groomers they would be fine.

Do you think I would have trouble with them in the bumps vs. my Metrons?
post #26 of 33
um regarding nordica's lower end ski...
how does the SUV10 compare to other skis in that level?
post #27 of 33
I skied the 03-04 model and found it surprisingly stable for a relatively easy ski. My general perception was one of a high quality, durable ski. Didn't take it in the bumps but my guess is it would do well. I tend think of the SUV's as slightly less "nervous" versions of the Volkl Supersports, perhaps due to the 70mm waist... 4-star compares to SUV10, 5-star to SUV12, 6-star to SUV14.

(I'm I guess a level 7 and 175# and wanted a little more beef and grip, so I held out for this year's SUV12.)

HTH
post #28 of 33
thanks steve!
give us a review when u get the 12
post #29 of 33
Thread Starter 

Top Fuel

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Originally Posted by AZ777
Gator,
How are your new Top Fuels?
I have not been on them yet - they are just sitting in my closet right now .
post #30 of 33
has anyone taken any nordicas into the park?
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