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post #31 of 56
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
I didn't know you lived in Hollywood... or was that the Upper East Side of Manhattan?
Ah. No.

It's only okay to act like a snob on the Upper East Side if you are very, very rich and have wife (or husband) who is at least 15 years younger than you. In Hollywood, it's that plus several executive producer credits.
post #32 of 56
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
It's okay to act like a snob, but only if you're actually rich. Oh, and it's okay to act like a child if you either are a child, or are cute.
I disagree.

It's only OK to act a snob if you are middle class - that's the only time it's charming.
post #33 of 56
What's up with skiers running into snowboarders? I was riding a snowboard yesterday at Whitetail when a skier ran into me from behind. I know it was a skier because when I glanced back, I saw a ski and pole flying up into the air. I did not stop to offer assistance.
post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by telerod15
What's up with skiers running into snowboarders? I was riding a snowboard yesterday at Whitetail when a skier ran into me from behind. I know it was a skier because when I glanced back, I saw a ski and pole flying up into the air. I did not stop to offer assistance.
The problem isn't just skiers, it's sliders of all disciplines overestimating what they can actually do and winding up on slopes that they cannot safely negotiate. Accidents are unfortunate, but they do happen, often for this very reason.

Just as an example, when I was at Whitetail three weeks ago, I saw a little girl, about 8 or 9 years old I think, heading straight down the middle of one of the blues trying to snowplow but not pointing her skis towards each other enough, with her arms out in front of her and to the side, and making little frantic "I'm in trouble" noises. This is a perfect example of someone trying to do something they really cannot do, and endangering themselves and others in the process. Someone could have been below her, staying in a predictable path, minding their own business, and suddenly been taken out by this out of control girl.

But once again, it's not just skiers, I see out of control snowboarders too.
post #35 of 56
I think the parents of the children who can't snowplow on expert trails should be force fed salmon from a blender.

Conversation overheard on a double black diamond trail the other day:
Parent: Wow, look at that view, that's the view I wanted to show you.
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response.
Parent: Go ahead no, make big round turns across the trail. {insert visual of steep, narrow, icy, double black diamond trail with beautiful view of entire mountain range}
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response. Child starts down the mtn., ankles flapping back and forth, loses edge grip, and slides to the bottom.
Parent: Dumbfounded look, no response.
post #36 of 56
This thread is for venting about skiers. A snowboarder didn't plow into me yesterday it was an alpine skier! You skiers have got to get it under control!

I like the example you cite. The girl was SKIING! Where was the parental supervision? They need to set some boundaries. Buy the child a beginner lift only ticket or stay with her and make sure she stays on terrain she can handle. Most parents aren't capable of even selecting terrain for their children, instructors can help with that.

I rode on the lift yesterday with a 10 year old and her dad, I had seen her riding Bold Decision very smooth and controlled. Impressive. I was talking to her dad about the bumps on Exhibition. He indicated an interest in riding them, but he had the sense to take the child with him to a run that had been groomed the night before. Parents of young skiers can learn alot from that little girl's snowboarder dad. I wish skiers were as responsible as that girl and her dad. Maybe it is a difference in the culture of snowboarding versus skiing.
post #37 of 56
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Originally Posted by skierzzzzzz
I think the parents of the children who can't snowplow on expert trails should be force fed salmon from a blender.

Conversation overheard on a double black diamond trail the other day:
Parent: Wow, look at that view, that's the view I wanted to show you.
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response.
Parent: Go ahead no, make big round turns across the trail. {insert visual of steep, narrow, icy, double black diamond trail with beautiful view of entire mountain range}
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response. Child starts down the mtn., ankles flapping back and forth, loses edge grip, and slides to the bottom.
Parent: Dumbfounded look, no response.
Exactly! I see this all the time! Snowboarder parents don't do this to their kids.
post #38 of 56
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Originally Posted by RJP
Honestly though, its people who can be pains in the butt, not the equipment they're on. (I hope not anyway, that'd be ugly)
I agree 100%, it's the loose nut behind the wheel that causes the problem. Not that they're riding a snow board or skis.

Some people are just knuckle heads 100% of the time
post #39 of 56
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Originally Posted by IL_Skier
I agree 100%, it's the loose nut behind the wheel that causes the problem. Not that they're riding a snow board or skis.

True, just because the most clueless people using the ski lifts are usually on alpine skis, it doesn't mean they are all bad. For me there is nothing more impressive than a beautiful woman making nice parallel turns. I love to watch that, but some of these skiers! Man, I could tell you some stories!
post #40 of 56
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Originally Posted by IL_Skier
Some people are just knuckle heads 100% of the time
OK, point well taken. I'm only a knuckle-dragger 50% of the time, but when I'm skiing, I still behave responsibly.
post #41 of 56
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Originally Posted by skierzzzzzz
I think the parents of the children who can't snowplow on expert trails should be force fed salmon from a blender.

Conversation overheard on a double black diamond trail the other day:
Parent: Wow, look at that view, that's the view I wanted to show you.
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response.
Parent: Go ahead no, make big round turns across the trail. {insert visual of steep, narrow, icy, double black diamond trail with beautiful view of entire mountain range}
Child: Dumbfounded look, no response. Child starts down the mtn., ankles flapping back and forth, loses edge grip, and slides to the bottom.
Parent: Dumbfounded look, no response.
While I was taking a lesson yesterday, I found I was sharing the same blue run with a dad and small child on skis. The little kid looked to be about 4, and had a full face helmet with goggles, so I couldn't actually "see him". But what struck me as I passed was what I "heard". The poor child was screaming and sobbing inside that helmet all the while slowing wedging his way down that blue run, clearly terrified, with dad stopping every 40 feet or so to call UP to him and coax him a little further down..... Yeah, THAT kid is gonna LOVE skiing

Since this thread is for bashing skiers, I'll say that I haven't been run into for months, but yesterday (since I had my new helmet on apparently), I was run into THREE times, and TWO of those were by skiers - one little kid and one adult woman.:
post #42 of 56
Ah, the crying wedge. I suppose dad couldn't see him cry either. DrFrau, I hope you weren't hurt and got the better of it sometimes. I really enjoyed riding away from my collision without changing rhythm or line while my assailant had an impromptu yard sale!
post #43 of 56
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Originally Posted by telerod15
True, just because the most clueless people using the ski lifts are usually on alpine skis
How do you figure? There are more skiers than snowboarders (though not by much anymore, I guess). It follows there should be more clueless people on skis, but I maintain that the proportion of clueless vs. not clueless is equal for both sports. I know this thread is for bashing skiers, but I don't think I'm bashing either skiers or snowboarders. I'm just saying that I see lots of clueless snowboarders as well as skiers, and I don't see how you can say that "snowboarder parents" are better than skier parents. The fact is you see a lot less parents on snowboards than on skis, so it's really hard to generalize. I just think you're being a little unfair.

Granted, people are being very unfair in the snowboarder thread as well, but I personally have nothing against anyone for riding one board as opposed to two or vice versa.
post #44 of 56
Shouldn't you be posting in the thread called "all alpine skiers are not clueless dweebs"? Skiers are irresposible parents and a hazard on the slopes. They tend to be loud and overweight. The ones with good figures are a joy to behold but they are few and far between. They drive too fast in gas guzzling SUVs adorned with W stickers.They dress in bright colors and look like clowns.

Respect gets respect from the liftline to the park. You skiers need to take responsibility! Teach the newcomers to your sport how to be safe and respectful! A little peer pressure would go a long way. They won't listen to me, I'm just a pinhead/knuckle-dragger. The alpine skier actually thinks he is more important than telemarker or snowboarder! Like a tricycle rider looking down his nose at a bicyclist! He really has to tilt the head back to do that! Their sense of entitlement is pathetic but amusing.
post #45 of 56
Makes me wish for Epicknuckledraggers.com
post #46 of 56
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Originally Posted by telerod15
Shouldn't you be posting in the thread called "all alpine skiers are not clueless dweebs"? Skiers are irresposible parents and a hazard on the slopes. They tend to be loud and overweight. The ones with good figures are a joy to behold but they are few and far between. They drive too fast in gas guzzling SUVs adorned with W stickers.They dress in bright colors and look like clowns.

Respect gets respect from the liftline to the park. You skiers need to take responsibility! Teach the newcomers to your sport how to be safe and respectful! A little peer pressure would go a long way. They won't listen to me, I'm just a pinhead/knuckle-dragger. The alpine skier actually thinks he is more important than telemarker or snowboarder! Like a tricycle rider looking down his nose at a bicyclist! He really has to tilt the head back to do that! Their sense of entitlement is pathetic but amusing.
Jeez, at least you're not making any generalizations here....it's too bad you can't enjoy this wonderful, amazing sport of ours without getting yourself so miserable about what other people are doing, thinking, driving, believing, wearing, eating, parenting, etc. We alpine skiers, now that we have been educated by someone as obviously enlighted as yourself, will now make sure we no longer pollute the slopes...or maybe you should just lighten up a bit, eh? Spend a little less time venting, and a little more time realizing that not everyone (including we foolish and miserable skiers) has exactly the same beliefs that you do...
post #47 of 56
HAHA! Yeah, just venting! Some of my remarks are twists on things skiers say about snowboarders in this forum and nobody calls them on it. (snowboard vs. ski culture, a carving snowboarder is a thing of beauty to watch, police yourselves, they won't listen to me, baggy pants, gangsters, etc.) Maybe people feel such comments are not even deserving of response and don't bother. Some however may see these type of statements differently after they are turned around against skiers. Yes, stereotypes are bad. No, I don't really believe all that, I was trying to be funny. I do think a little that way some times but I know it's wrong.

I like your idea of alpine skiers staying away from ski hills but I'm afraid the resorts would go out of business and I would be forced to hike like a real telemarker! No, I'm just another alpine (resort) skier (dweeb). My boots are as stiff as yours, my skis are as short and narrower underfoot. I love skiing, skiers and Epicski.com. Sorry, just venting about skiers! Man, I could tell you some stories!

I'm not a parent. Maybe forcing a child down an expert slope in a wedge is a better way to punish him than spanking or making him go to his room. Maybe I'm seeing good parents who take children skiing when the children have been bad. Probably they get to snowboard as reward for good behavior.
post #48 of 56
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Originally Posted by telerod15
HAHA! Yeah, just venting! Some of my remarks are twists on things skiers say about snowboarders in this forum and nobody calls them on it.
Actually, I did .

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Originally Posted by telerod15
I'm not a parent. Maybe forcing a child down an expert slope in a wedge is a better way to punish him than spanking or making him go to his room. Maybe I'm seeing good parents who take children skiing when the children have been bad. Probably they get to snowboard as reward for good behavior.
Just for the record, I agree with you that it's bad parenting to scare your child to death by forcing him down an expert slope. What I don't agree with is that all (or even most) parents do that.

And I don't hold your opinion against you at all (just letting you know). I like having discussions with people who don't agree with me , it's more fun than constantly agreeing all the time.

Have a nice day!
post #49 of 56
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Originally Posted by telerod15
Yes, stereotypes are bad.
As are these "venting" threads.

I'm surprised that so few people have actually realized that one's behavior is not a function of what type of equipment is strapped to one's feet. Whether you think I'm a jerk or not, why should that perception change if I were to strap on a snowboard instead of skis? Would I be more/less considerate as a result of having done so? Does it matter? Are you really going to change my behavior by calling me an ***hole skier/boarder?

Why don't we all just focus on what we are doing ourselves (including how WE treat others while skiing/boarding, and whether we are making sure to keep the slopes safe for everyone), and try to just enjoy our sport?
post #50 of 56
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Originally Posted by jsnoland
As are these "venting" threads.

I'm surprised that so few people have actually realized that one's behavior is not a function of what type of equipment is strapped to one's feet. Whether you think I'm a jerk or not, why should that perception change if I were to strap on a snowboard instead of skis? Would I be more/less considerate as a result of having done so? Does it matter? Are you really going to change my behavior by calling me an ***hole skier/boarder?

Why don't we all just focus on what we are doing ourselves (including how WE treat others while skiing/boarding, and whether we are making sure to keep the slopes safe for everyone), and try to just enjoy our sport?
My thoughts exactly .
post #51 of 56
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Originally Posted by L7
I like to complain about people who boast about how fast they ski. Nothing says credibility like a snappy boastful name on the internet.
If you feel like you need to complain you aren't skiing enough....
post #52 of 56
this is one of those threads that makes me wonder why more people don't realize they are better at lurking than at posting.
post #53 of 56
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
this is one of those threads that makes me wonder why more people don't realize they are better at lurking than at posting.
post #54 of 56
WHAT--no redirect to Paula's
post #55 of 56
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Originally Posted by L7
I like to complain about people who boast about how fast they ski. Nothing says credibility like a snappy boastful name on the internet.

Yep, that's about right......good snowboarder boastful names....Isiton mybehindtoomuchforu or maybe Igetmorebigairthanu or even Istandonyourskisinlineuntilyouthreatentoharmme
post #56 of 56
Is snowboarding still a new sport?

I ski. I hate myself. Thus I hate skiers. Wait, I loathe myself. Wait!
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