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Boobytrapped!

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Skiing at our local "bump" last night with my wife while she was trying out her new skis. We were taking it easy (she is an aspiring intermediate) I was skiing some easy trails, and taking a crossover that either leads to another lift, or you can take a hard right and ski back down to the chair we had been using. Since it was getting late, and not too many people were on the hill, I was using the crossover to extend my runs without fear of getting "bombed from above" by the "straightliners". I had taken this route several times until my wife wanted to take a quick break. We were off the hill maybe 10 minutes. When we went back to where we were skiing, I again took the crossover, but to my surprise, they had put a fence up! There was no way to see the fence until I hit it. Ended up doing a full face plant and spraining my thumb! (Only skiing related injury I have had since I was five and my dad tough beartrap binding were a good deal!)

I went back to the lift, and contacted ski patrol, who contacted the gentleman in charge of running the lifts, and closing off terrain. I spoke with him about why the fence was there, and he said that he was just talking to some "others" about why that fence was there. He wasn't sure why they put it up?!? The ski patrol and I went to examine the scene, and they agreed with me that the fence was an accident waiting to happen.

So now, with the help of the staff at the hill, I have a nice shiner and a painful thumb! Luckily it wasn't more serious, if I had been really injured, I could have been lying there for who knows how long!

I never thought I would be boobytrapped by the staff at the hill!
post #2 of 17
Out of curiosity, how can you be skiing and run into a fence that you couldn't see?
post #3 of 17
I vividly remember a crash when I was younger. Night skiing.

I was flying down the hill trying to get one final run on the big charilift. They ran a rope across the "maze" to close it. It was not lit. (There were never lights on the maze, so it's not a case of them turning off lights) The chair was still running. The place was abolutely empty except for a few of us racers.

I must have hit that rope going around 40mph. Right in the neck. I'm lucky my head didn't fly off. I was absolutely SLAMMED to the ground and had huge lacerations on my neck!

I must have been 13 at the time and man, I'll never forget that crash. Glad you were OK too.
post #4 of 17
jon

It was night.

I was skiing at Jiminy Peak one night and used a simple cut through to a trail called Whitetail. It's the normal way I would go. No lights but I could see where I was headed. As it turned out, the cut through was closed due to ulta slick conditions - un edgeable. I went down full weight - no warning. Took me half an hour to get up due to the pain - don't do pain well. There was no rope to close the trail but two closed signs were laying on their back. Luckily I was skiing unusually slow. That happened 3 years ago and I still feel the pain. It really pi$$ed me off!

So I understand how that situation could happen and I'd be mad as hell!
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnythan
Out of curiosity, how can you be skiing and run into a fence that you couldn't see?
Like paul said- it was night. The trail itself is not lit very well, and the chair that is accessed by the crossover was closed, so the lights on that hill were off. The fence is one of those rubber stretchy fences that are held up with old ski poles. As I was going over/though the fence I felt both skis just stop. I was wondering what I ran over, when I did my face plant...
post #6 of 17
Gotcha. Sorry to hear that!
post #7 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzoo1
Like paul said- it was night. The trail itself is not lit very well, and the chair that is accessed by the crossover was closed, so the lights on that hill were off. The fence is one of those rubber stretchy fences that are held up with old ski poles. As I was going over/though the fence I felt both skis just stop. I was wondering what I ran over, when I did my face plant...
My bolding.

To me your description sounds like a closed trail that you had no business being on in the first place---especially at night.

I fully expect you to respond negatively to my rather common sense remark---go right ahead---I'd expect no less.:
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
If the trail was closed- why not put the fence where it was more visible- like at the top of the crossover where there would have been enough light to see it, instead at the bottom of the crossover where it was not easily visible?

Wouldn't that make better sense?
post #9 of 17
It makes sense to NOT ski something NOT lit.

That you fell over something you didn't see is good enough proof of this rather common sensical approach

I don't buy this for one split second. You said if you got hurt---you could have laid there for god know how long----PRECISELY why ya don't ski unlit trails at night.

Dark trails are not generally considered open, and if called upon to go get yer sorry butt---you'd hear about it from me many ways from sunday---whilst I patched you up. I would not appreciate having to unnecessarily endanger myself to go get you.

Tell me, would you drive the wrong way on the freeway at night just because there were no other drivers out at the moment? Because it was quicker to get back to the donut shop that way?

There is absolutely NOTHING stopping you from doing so---but is it prudent?
post #10 of 17
Night skiing is a totally different animal.

Use more caution, especially at Closing Time.

Chalk it up to lessons learned.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
It makes sense to NOT ski something NOT lit.

That you fell over something you didn't see is good enough proof of this rather common sensical approach

I don't buy this for one split second. You said if you got hurt---you could have laid there for god know how long----PRECISELY why ya don't ski unlit trails at night.

Dark trails are not generally considered open, and if called upon to go get yer sorry butt---you'd hear about it from me many ways from sunday---whilst I patched you up. I would not appreciate having to unnecessarily endanger myself to go get you.

Tell me, would you drive the wrong way on the freeway at night just because there were no other drivers out at the moment? Because it was quicker to get back to the donut shop that way?

There is absolutely NOTHING stopping you from doing so---but is it prudent?

I guess that make me a dumb a$$. For assuming that a trail that was open would be closed without ANY warning. As I said before- two patrollers looked at the situation and BOTH AGGREED with me that this was an accident waiting to happen.

Have a nice day.
post #12 of 17
Bonni,

It is true that night skiing is a totally different animal. Many areas on the open trails are not well lit. Especially on crossovers. You gotta watch out. But that trail was closed and normally would be open. A closed trail should be marked clearly. There was no visible markings and I got banged up pretty good because patrol did a poor job. My speed was about as slow as one could go.

They are right there to take a pass when they close a perfectly good trail during the day or when you poach. I feel that safety is a huge part of running a ski area especially one with night skiing.

Having re-read this post, I hear a touch of whining. That fall has p!ssed me off for years. Its nice to vent a little.
post #13 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzoo1
Skiing at our local "bump" last night with my wife while she was trying out her new skis.

Which bump were you skiing?
post #14 of 17
guess you got trapped by some booby!


ducking and running
:-)
post #15 of 17
Wow!
Lucky it was just a fence and not a boarder taking a rest
post #16 of 17
How about glow in the dark fences and maze ropes? Then we would be able to see them before we hit them.
post #17 of 17
I did something like this once. When I was skiing at Pico in college I did a jump I always love to do and came screaming down to the chairlift. They put a rope up in an unusual place. The lighting was ok but with my high speed I saw it at the last second. I ducked and it hit me right in the forehead smashing my goggles and ripping me off my skis destroying my bindings. I was ok luckily, if it had been my neck I am not so sure I would have been....

Alfonse
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