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Research Dynamics skiis

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hi folks,
Looking into buying an old pair of planks for fun, made by Research Dynamics. Tried checking their web site (http://www.rdcoyote.com) but seems to be broken.

Can anyone give a quick history about what they know about this brand, as well as the quality of the skiis?

Thanks! My first time in this forum, seems like a great place!

cranbo
post #2 of 17
As I understand it, RDs were a splinter off of PRE. Some of the "out west" gang can probably fill you in better.
post #3 of 17
They had one of the best named women skis ever!!! Bad Bitches..to go along with their Bad Dogs mens line. Some of the PC crowd took offence, but I thought it was great!
post #4 of 17
Don't take this as 1005 true. But as I recall. RD and Pre were both at one time designed and built here in Park City. At some point Then RD moved to Sunvalley. Pre started having thier skis made by K2. As I understand it RD went under and the owner started Wolf skis are something like that. Saw a guy skiing at Grand Targee on a pair of RD powder skis. My guess is they were made sometime in the mid 1980's.
post #5 of 17
Back in the late '80s, I was living in Frisco, CO, and a housemate of mine (a rather lanky guy and a weak skier at best) bought a pair of those Coyotes. As I recall, he broke them. Before and after that event, I never heard anything good about them, except as Phil said, they had good names.

Bad Dog!
post #6 of 17
after K2 they were also made in the Elan factory
post #7 of 17
I had a couple pair when they were still in the "Pre" era . I did like the feel of the skis however they did seem to loose life quickly.
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by waxman
after K2 they were also made in the Elan factory
This is true. The Coyotes of this generation have the sidecut of a Volkl Explosiv (no metal tho). I've a pair in the garage with about 40 days on them; can't say I've noticed a 'loss of life'. The Rossi R500 plates may be helping with that.

There is a distinctive crackling in the topsheet finish at the bend of the shovel, that was rather prevalent on Elans of that generation as well. No functional detriment. There is no delam pro at the tips - find some that fit Elan SCX or Explosiv if you plan to ski crust.

For the fleaBay value of ~100 I'd say it's perfect to test out Physicsman's theory of fat skis being optimal for spring slush.

All right, now you've done it, I'll just have to take them out today.
post #9 of 17
I still own a pair of RD Coyotes, picked them up from a rep in Park City about 18 years ago. These were supposed to be "modified slalom" or designed for racing. I loved them and can't just give them up, even though I don't use them anymore. They defanitely had kind of a cult following. In fact, the last time I skied on them, about three years ago, I had plenty of people comment on them.

I loved mine...go ahead and pick them up.
post #10 of 17
I just bought some RD Coyote "Heli-Dog" skis on TGR, with Marker M51 demo bindings. They're a laminate construction (no cap), about 90-92mm under foot, and feel very very beefy. Topsheets are bright red, bases are neon green. (I won't lose these skis in the snow.) These feel quite stiff for powder skis, and have a lot of camber -- rather different than the current crop of powder skis, which seem to tend towards soft flex & very little camber. I've skied them once. They're very straight, and not much fun on the groomed; they were pretty good in the powder though.

According to the seller, these particular skis were made for RD by Elan in the mid-1990s. I just picked them up for use as early-season rock pow skis, and for loaners (demo track makes it easy to adjust to fit most boots).

-Karl
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 

thanks for the info

Hi everyone,
Thanks for the feedback. I ended up getting the pair, which is a set of "Super Bad Dog" 204cm.

All I have to say is...

RAD!




--cranbo
post #12 of 17
Raaaad!
post #13 of 17
El Chupacabra, put a plate on them! That tail has a lot of power that can be harnessed, and I think a plate might just do it without significant weight shift during the turn (unless you have a size 13 foot of course).

ps I find the ski gets a little torsionally 'weak' underfoot and immediately in front of the toepiece. I would feel doubly queasy about that M51 toepiece on that ski as last time I held an M51 demo without a boot in it I could shake the ski around it some 3mm at least. Shudder.
post #14 of 17
I see you got your answer, but I have been away for awhile and was attracted to the string about RD.

I have a pair of RD Coyotes in the garage (with Look turntable bindings). They were a nice pair of all-round skis. The guy who designed them used to be a Pre and Pre guys came from K2. He lived in Sun Valley and had the skis build by Elan in Yugoslavia (this was before the breakup of that country). They have cracked edges, which are usually seen in more expensive skis. I bet most people don't know what that is -- the edge is segmented. It was supposed to provide better edge grip.

However, I did "demo" them a few years back versus my newer skis and frankly they could not hold a candle to the new skis. The big difference? Torsional rigidity. The Super Bad Dog was their GS ski and was stiffer. A friend skied those and loved them on big mountains turns.
post #15 of 17
I have a pair of RD Soft Coyotes (great powder ski in their day) with Looks, too!
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by comprex
El Chupacabra, put a plate on them! That tail has a lot of power that can be harnessed, and I think a plate might just do it without significant weight shift during the turn (unless you have a size 13 foot of course).

ps I find the ski gets a little torsionally 'weak' underfoot and immediately in front of the toepiece. I would feel doubly queasy about that M51 toepiece on that ski as last time I held an M51 demo without a boot in it I could shake the ski around it some 3mm at least. Shudder.
Yeah, the Marker demo tracks are pretty sloppy. But since this is a 4th or 5th ski option to me, I don't care enough to mount a plate or otherwise modify the skis. They'll be basically for skiing off-piste in early season conditions, when I won't care about hitting rocks, and for loaning to friends who don't have fat skis -- so I want to keep the demo binders on them.

-Karl
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
since this is a 4th or 5th ski option to me, I don't care enough to mount a plate or otherwise modify the skis. They'll be basically for skiing off-piste in early season conditions, when I won't care about hitting rocks, and for loaning to friends who don't have fat skis -- so I want to keep the demo binders on them.
No problem.

Mine will be a way down-the-line option (depending on boot) for spring slush. I am really tempted, however, to build something like the plate on Fischer Revolutions with coil springs between the front and rear plate. Just because.
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