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Just Ordered a "Skier's Edge"

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
got the 'Big Mtn' model, with RPM platform and LifeBeat computer/measurement.

Anyone else got one of these? Anyone try one out and return it?

I thought it was a lot to pay, but am hoping there is good muscle memory benefits for edging, turn rhythm, and of course muscle fitness.

If it can help strengthen the muscles that are causing mis-alignment in my knee movement, that'd be a bonus.
post #2 of 11
I tried one and really liked it. It is a fantastic trainer. I just missed one at a swap for (are you sitting) fifty bucks, yep $50.00.
post #3 of 11
Great trainer. I still can't believe Phil didn't just rip it out of the lady's arms... He was bigger, after all...
post #4 of 11
Originally Posted by ssh
Great trainer. I still can't believe Phil didn't just rip it out of the lady's arms... He was bigger, after all...
I tried, the other Nuns rushed me and those darn Girl Scouts can bite hard.
post #5 of 11
I have the big mtn but w/o the RPM. I use it quite a bit (3-4 days a week, depending on how many days I'm getting in skiing). I think it is a pretty good machine for cardio and for ski conditioning. Three observations though:

1. If you are a big guy, you probably need the ELT (extra lateral tension?) kit -- which adds a powerband. I weigh 225, and the straight big mtn was not able to deal with the force I put on the machine. The ELT fixed the problem. The RPM may come with the ELT -- not sure about that.

2. While a good conditioning machine, it still does not completely prepare you for skiing -- only skiing conditions the muscles that you work in skiing. It does do a better job than hiking, running, etc., but don't expect it to be a complete substitute for skiing.

3. You also need to be mindful of technique. It is easy to let the conditioner reinforce unweighting technique which is not currently considered to be good technique. Focus on angulation and lateral movements -- it can reinforce good technique, but you need to be cognizant of how you are using it!

post #6 of 11
never been on skiers edge, but I know I work out on my kids trampoline, and the other day I was thinking it is probably alot like the skiers edge I saw advertised, of course, i can't really bounce on it in my basement and I sometimes have to clear the snow off to use it. I like a trampoline because I can "compress" on it, simulating moguls and powder skiing, then i do all kinds of jumping and balance and flying around on it, pretending or shall i saw fantisizing i'm skiing - i think it works pretty good.
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
After a few days of using the Skier's Edge, here are my observations:

-gonna keep it
-like habacomike said above, focusing really helps
-darn good workout
-pivoting foot beds reinforce balance (I would never buy the handrail attachments)
-doesn't have much in common with a trampoline from a training standpoint as it doesn't launch you upward
post #8 of 11
I've had one for many years (older Skiers Edge III). You can use them as an aerobic workout tool instead of running or cycling, but I find the biggest benefit comes from using it as an anaerobic tool. Skiing is hugely anaerobic.

The Skier’s Edge is great for training muscle in a ski specific way versus “dumb” muscle of just lifting weights.

My workouts usually consist of lifting weights (Squats, dead lift, leg lift/curl, etc.) and then finish off each exercise with a pounding “slalom” session on the machine. I have it set on the highest tension (Spinal tap – “… but, these go to eleven”) and pound out as many turns as I can and as quickly as I can before I lose form.

I don’t use poles at all, which forces you to concentrate on what you’re doing a little more. I wouldn’t recommend that until you’ve got some mileage under your belt though.

In the off-season I train in the same way for cycling after lifting – same principals apply.
post #9 of 11
I hate GIZMO's, cause I"m a natureboy mountain man. Fortunately I live in an area with tons of trails and hills, in the Poconos, all around me.

I xc ski all winter, run/bike(road/mtn) in the woods in the summer, 2 triathlons per summer, run at night in the winter when there is no snow to xc, swim the mountain lakes in summer, cut the lawn with a small backpack of topsoil on, and leg and hand weights, dig up the yard as much as possible and plant stuff, cut down trees and split wood for my fireplace, do yoga regularly for 20 yrs(okay that's the woos side-but its' great), lift weights a bit(don't really like and I'm big enough), and on my yearly ski trip to SLC I ski vertical/moguls/hardest way down(well maybe not the very hardest way<g>) till they tell me to go home with my best heman bud. And yeah, work out on the trampoline to get ready for my ski trip. These trips act as a prime focus for workout, I'm jealous of you dudes that can ski the good stuff all year around.

Glad to hear some of you guys seem to be cut from the same cloth.

You guys got me thinking about this Skiers Edge, especially the anaerobic part. I have a big basement, that could use more junk. And lately I"ve been doing research on growth hormone and how it is these bursts of anaerobics that boost the GH levels and keep you living forever!!!! I'm going to look into it.
post #10 of 11
I’d have to agree that XC skiing is a great way to workout for alpine skiing - Especially if you do skating hill intervals with a 25 lb plate in a backpack. The next best thing is to skate intervals up a green trail on your alpine gear … but who wants to do that once you’re ready to ski?

Unfortunately, I don’t have the time to do it enough to get any benefit other than being really sore every three weeks or so.

The Skiers edge by itself isn’t enough of a workout for me, but then again no single this is. I’d be interested in learning more about your trampoline workouts. I’ve always wanted one … my boys are young and so I could blame the purchase of one on them!
post #11 of 11
>trampoline workout
really great ski workout. I simulate mogul skiing by doing very short quick compressions, relaxed, stable upper body, legs everywhere, flying all over tramp. mine is on a slight hill and had a dead tree fall on it, so it has some terrain to it. Arms up, infront, I'm flying down Little Cloud bowl after it has been snowing for a few days. Then jump up high, legs crisscrossing, all over the place. Getting used to be up off the ground. Then arms out front, up, legs twisting and pivoting beneath stable upper body. Then fall back on but, then up, to knees. etc etc. I've been doing this for years to get ready for my trips. I think your kids would really like one.
also xc in lousy turney, tracks is good, because working on eye/leg co-ordination.
25lb plate skating?, you're a kidder, right, i can skate, but I don't need a plate to get me huffing.
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