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Jackson Hole conditions, where to eat?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Can anyone give me a first hand update on current Jackson Hole conditions? I am heading out there with my daughter (15 yrs old and first time skiing out west) next week and am hoping that we have good snow conditions. Also, do you recommend I take her to Targhee for a day? Any suggestions on where to eat? Any help/input is appreciated.
post #2 of 23
Have fun! It's a beautiful resort and you'll enjoy it. Do definitely go to Targhee....if you aren't renting a car there's a bus service for $65 per person that includes the round trip and the lift ticket.

As for eating, Cascades in the Teton Lodge was good, and the Alpenhof restaurant had GREAT lunch for about the price you'd pay for an overpriced burger at other resorts.
post #3 of 23
I am also going next week and I know they just got about 18 inches and looks like maybe another system friday night

Alfonse
post #4 of 23
I'll see you both out there sunday through friday....although my utah buddies think im stupid...damn cancellation policy.

Hopefully it keeps coming. I heard it was a great sunny freshie day yesterday.
post #5 of 23
Snake River Grill
Old Yellowstone garage
Rendezvous Bistro
Peak at Four Seasons for Lunch - excellent Elk Chilli
post #6 of 23
Even the people who live here and ski every day have been raving about the conditions since Sunday. Your timing should be excellent.

You do know, I presume, that you'll be here during the busiest weekend we have all season?

I second many of the eatery recommendations:

Cascade (Teton Mountain Lodge) and Alpenhof Bistro are great for a "civilized" lunch.

Peak Bar at the Four Seasons is excellent for lunch but will be very crowded from this Friday through Monday. Plan an early lunch if you want to get a table. (I work at the Four Seasons)

The Peak, Cascade, and Alp Bistro are all nice places for an after-ski drink. The place everyone goes apres-ski will be the Mangy Moose, which is why the other three offer a somewhat quieter alternative.

For evening dinner suggestions, I would also highly, highly recommend Stiegler's in the Jackson Hole Racquet Club Resort and the Blue Lion in Jackson. Both take reservations and you'll definintely want to make reservations if you plan to go this weekend.

Have fun.

Bob
post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
You do know, I presume, that you'll be here during the busiest weekend we have all season?
Thanks for the feedback. We're actually coming in on Monday night and leaving the following Monday. So I was hoping to avoid the major crowds. It's probably not the best week but my daughter is off from school that week.
post #8 of 23
Masa Sushi at the Best Western is very good sushi.
post #9 of 23
Bubba's for BBQ, if it's still there...
post #10 of 23
Word up to Masa, and Bubbas.

Definitely do GT as well. If you've got the scratch, I'd book a day on the cat for a memorable experience. That is, if you can ski pow.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by xdog1
If you've got the scratch, I'd book a day on the cat for a memorable experience. That is, if you can ski pow.
That sounds like a good idea. Do you know what it costs? My daughter's never skied western powder but I don't think she'll have a problem. We were ripping it up at Jay last week in thigh deep.
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by cjb
That sounds like a good idea. Do you know what it costs? My daughter's never skied western powder but I don't think she'll have a problem. We were ripping it up at Jay last week in thigh deep.
300.00 a day base price per person.

http://www.grandtarghee.com/winter/a...powdercat.html

FWIW - There are some pros and cons to the cat at GT. It can be pretty cool if you hit it on the right day. And this is quite possibly the last season they will be offering it - the rest of Peaked Mountain becomes lift served pretty soon.

On the other hand... If you are there on an epic day, you don't need the cat to hit tons of fresh snow. In fact, you can bag a ton more vertical doing laps off the lifts than you are likely to get on the cat. If it is really going off, pretty much every run is fresh tracks in fluffy powder if you have any idea at all of where to be.

If you sign up well in advance (which you need to do if you want to be assured of spots during busy weeks) you never quite know what you are going to get & how the guides will manage your trip. They claim they only go out under great conditions & promise all fresh tracks, but that is not always the case. Had one trip that was great. Had another where the lead guide was trying like crazy to farm the snow (which was pretty marginal that day anyway) so we all felt like we were being herded rather than bagging great powder skiing. They hadn't been out in a week & were clearly starved for revenue - they went for it after a light/blowing snowfall that mostly filled in the old tracks & if they were careful, they were gonna be able to squeeze a day or two more out of what was there. Pissed me off. The bad news is that the cancellation policy leaves them with lots of options and you with very few.

I don't mean to be too negative about the cat (I may even sneak in a trip before it is all said and done) - but IMO it is hardly the be-all & end-all of skiing at Targhee. If conditions are decent, you can find lots of great lift-served powder and tackle it at your own pace.

Also, use search to find a number of older threads on the cat at Targhee - you may find some useful info...
post #13 of 23
I'm going to Targee and Jackson this weekend. sounds like it should be pretty good.
post #14 of 23
Utah49, I'll be at Targhee tomorrow and Saturday. PM me today if you are interested in hooking up. It's supposed to start snowing again tomorrow.
CJB - my recommendations for dining options "over the hill" in Teton Valley are as follows:

The Royal Wolf - great eclectic cuisine, good beers on tap including Guinness. PBR specials. Lots of locals. Approximately $60 for a family of 4 (including drinks).

Tony's Pizza - Great pizza and good beer. Friday's can get crowded. $45

Warbirds Cafe - upscale dining at the "Driggs International Airport". $115

All of these are in Driggs.

There is also the Knotty Pine in Victor - western cuisine (steak and fish). $100

Jackson - Merry Piglets (Mexican), Bubba's (BBQ - BYOB), Snake River Brewery (burgers & beer), Anthony's (Italian). These are all in the $40-80 range, with Bubba's on the low end and Anthony's on the high end.


Cat skiing (do the search) can be the best day ever or the worst. Obviously it depends on the weather and the group. You can only ski as fast as your slowest skier in the group. And yes, the guides will try and farm snow. You will only get 10-12 runs and 15-18,000 vertical feet. Over on the hill, I have skied over 35,000 vertical feet on powder days. Remember (to most clients amazement) the snow can be anything from 24 inches 3% fluff to windblown sastrugi. If it's crusty on Fred's, it's crusty over on Peaked. Nothing is groomed and you are outside the entire day. Do bring (or rent) the fattest skis you can and don't show up in stick-chaser gear. Bring a backpack with extra goggles, hat, gloves, an extra layer, etc. Make sure and tip the guides if you feel they've done a good job.

BTW - Targhee's Activity Center job is to get the cash from clients and sell the h*ll out of cat skiing. It's the guide's job to try and make due with what they get sent.:
post #15 of 23
which is vacation week....I'm arriving NEXT Sunday (2/27)..is the following week vacation?


Thanks for all the food tips...but how about some western steer? Where do i get one of those world famous steaks??
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by cjb
Thanks for the feedback. We're actually coming in on Monday night and leaving the following Monday. So I was hoping to avoid the major crowds. It's probably not the best week but my daughter is off from school that week.
You'll actually miss the worst of the vacation week. We usually figure that Saturday/Sunday/Monday are the days with the biggest lines. Even at that, it's still a very busy week for us, but I think you'll be fine.

Have fun and pm me if you're looking for any additional ideas.

Bob
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by slownlow
which is vacation week....I'm arriving NEXT Sunday (2/27)..is the following week vacation?


Thanks for all the food tips...but how about some western steer? Where do i get one of those world famous steaks??

I am there the same week. And yeah, where can I get a big slab of that steak.
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am there the same week. And yeah, where can I get a big slab of that steak.
Try the Gun Barrel. If you want something different try the Elk Chop or the Buffalo Ribs.
Pick up a copy of the Dining Guide, lottsa good eatin' places in that there part of the country.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am there the same week. And yeah, where can I get a big slab of that steak.
* Cowboy Steak House downstairs in the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar on the Square in town.

* Burke's Chop House a block west and a block south of the Square.

Either of those should satisfy that red-meat craving.

Bob
post #20 of 23
Arrived in JH last night after 24hrs traveling from UK for 2 week trip. It's COLD.
Ate at the Vertical Restautant at the Inn at JH. Excellent Elk Chops!
Looks like snow thro wednesday.
post #21 of 23
Just returned from a week in JH last night. First day of skiing on Sunday the conditions were mediocre, and the visibility at the top of Rendezvous Mt. was about 10 feet. Since I had never skied there before, we followed a mountain host down on the first run so we wouldn't ski off a cliff that we didn't know about. It snowed that night and the conditions were phenomenal on Monday. We skied from first tram to closing time, all over the mountain. Tuesday we went to Grand Targhee where they still had fresh powder. We made 17 summit to base runs in fresh snow. Wednesday and Thursday the conditions were still pretty good, but very cold at JH, especially at the base (temperature inversion).

Overall, I enjoyed my first trip to JH. Great terrain, short lift lines, friendly people. It is supposed to snow this weekend, which, of course, doesn't help me, but is badly needed. I would definitely recommend that any trip to JH include at least a day at Grand Targhee. Smaller area, feels like the places where I learned to ski as a kid.

We ate the Cowboy Steak House in the Million Dollar Cowboy Bar in Jackson, where I had a great fillet. I would also second the Blue Lion, which a friend who lives in Jackson feels is the best restaraunt in the area. I had a great meal there too.

If you like live music, Derek Trucks is playing at the Mangy Moose in Teton Village, I think Saturday and Sunday nights (2/19 and 2/20). He's from Jacksonville and was a guitar player with Allman Brothers band. Wish it had been last weekend so I could have caught it.
post #22 of 23
This won't help you, but for future references:

Pica's across the street from Albertson's in Jackson for burritos
Mangy Moose for the nachos
Alpenhoff for the artichoke dip (very much to die for I think)
post #23 of 23
If the budget can handle it, don't miss 'OYG' also referred to as 'Old Yellowstone Garage'. Best meal I had in 3 weeks of travel, OYG actually has an 'original' menu, something I did not see a lot of in the US, the home of franchise food. It pays to book
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