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Softening Salomon Course boots

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
I have this year's Course 120 and so far in colder temps I can barely flex the boot and would like to get more forward flex. Anybody had any experience cutting the shell to get more flex? There are some dotted lines on top of the cuff in front, and on the top of the shell in back that Salomon says are suggested areas to cut, wondering how much it will soften it. I'd like to get it closer to the flex of the Pro model, although probably not possible to soften it that much. Already pulled the screws out to unlock the hinge, and barely could tell any difference.
post #2 of 9
My dad has those boots, and had the same experience as you when removing the rivets...barely a difference. He had them cut along all three dotted lines, and it seemed to do the trick. I have not tried them on since they were cut, so I cannot tell you what they feel like, but if you wait until after the weekend, I can get back to you on that. I also have no idea what the Pro Model feels like for comparison...but my dad does describe them as considerably softer after the job.

Just cut em...you have nothing to lose. If you're worried about them becoming too soft, cut each area one at a time and test em, although I cannot tell you what order to cut in. Maybe someone else can...
post #3 of 9
remove the rivits (DONE)

do up the power strap around just the line (inside the shell)

lower/ trim the shell/cuff 5mm at a time

cut the "V" notch in the back of the shell
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks, sounds like the cutting will make a noticeable difference. I'll trim the cuff 1st, and probably replace the velcro strap with a booster. If I need more flex I'll cut the v in back, if that makes it too soft I can always replace the rivets to lock the hinge.
post #5 of 9
I was looking at some Xwave10's (flex 110) to replace the Xwave8's (flex 90) I currently have and was wondering about the softening thing too. I'm curious as to how you made out on softening of the flex on your boot.

The 10's felt a bit stiff for me in the store but I figure if I could soften the flex a bit say down to (100) by using one or more of the techniques that were mentioned. I can get a deal on the 10's right now in my size.
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by mntlion
remove the rivits (DONE)

do up the power strap around just the line (inside the shell)

lower/ trim the shell/cuff 5mm at a time

cut the "V" notch in the back of the shell
yup.

I had the 2000 version in Saffron(yellow) and stopped just short of the V notch trim. however, I've trimmed other boots with such V notches and they do indeed soften and render more progressive the forward flex.

softer fore/aft, stiff laterally is what you should be aiming for. these boots will provide it IF you do enough fore/aft softening.
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
Ended up cutting the top of the cuff on the line Salomon had inscribed. This softened it up a fair amount, but I can still stiffen it up to almost as stiff as it was before by tightening down the power strap. A couple times when I got knocked forward I felt it was too soft so I put the screws back in to lock the hinge. Now it feels near perfect as it’s a little softer, but still plenty stiff and I can control the flex easier than before.

Probably should have cut it in increments like mntlion suggested and see how it felt. It’s possible cutting about half as much as I did could have been enough for what I was looking for.

It’s good that the flex is easily adjustable though, now it’s really an awesome skiing all mountain boot.
post #8 of 9
This is good stuff. You are talking about the Salomon plug type boot. Picked up a pair aboout a month ago. Way to stiff for me. The fitter pulled the screws out and that helped. I still find that I ski with the top buckle totally detached. I flex forward and then snug the power strap so it kicks in later in the flex. It's time to do some cutting. The performance is there.
post #9 of 9
I have both boots, the Pro Model and the Course. There is another way to soften the Course that involves some cutting above the ankle, but I wouldn't try it without supervision. Jeff Bergeron knows this method. I use the Pro-Model most of the time because the fit is the same and the flex (for me) is great plus I didn't have to do any cutting. I don't race anymore (Nastar, beer league) so I just want a laterally stiff boot.
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