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Mantras for short radius

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Looking for short and sweet mantras for short radius turns - say you had to participate in a Level III (PSIA) or Level IV (CSIA) ski-off: short radius on black terrain. Boil the action down to a key phrase or image - one sentence or less.

I know that the intricacy of short radius turns can't be boiled down to a single mantra - just looking for general viewpoints that may have clicked for you.
post #2 of 22
Flatten skis and transfer weight to new outside ski, start rotating skis, progressively edge skis and control the pressure that build on them through the turn....
post #3 of 22
Show those bases(up hill) and gentle steer!
post #4 of 22
I can think of two primary ones:

1) Scoop the snow (with the tips) - Courtesy of Bob Shostek
2) Do this (*a) before this (*b) (yes this a visual one)
  • *a= holding hands in front of you, palms down, as if they are your skis, tip both to left edge then right edge
  • *b= Starting with hands in same position as *a, keeping them flat, pivot then to the left then right.
post #5 of 22
Luke ....... Bend the ski!
post #6 of 22
1-2-3...1-2-3...1-2-3...1-2-3...
post #7 of 22

Om.

Now, Now, Now...
post #8 of 22
Turn, and, turn, and, turn, and, turn.....
post #9 of 22

tune in

Watch a Warren Miller Video, pick your favorite musical segment, DL it to your IPOD and crank the tunes as you ski to the beat....Please no Stairway to Heaven...

After a good B.E.R.P. comes Rythm(sp?) and Timing.
post #10 of 22
turn mutha fu@#$er, turn mutha fu@#$er, turn mutha fu@#$er
(worked for me)
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
Nice - I like these. Thanks!

jp - I can assure you there will be NO Stairway to Heaven playing in my i-Pod. Well, I don't have an i-Pod... but if I did... there'd be no Stairway to Heaven playing there. Now at the risk of being exposed as a dumdum, you gotta tell me what is a B.E.R.P - (besides something my wife tells me to quit doing all the time, but I think that's spelled differently.)
post #12 of 22
I just thought of one...

"Turn-or-die...turn-or-die..."
post #13 of 22
Another one too...

sss skis go... sss skis go... sss skis go...

Of course there is the old stand by-

Pain in the a$$...pain in the a$$... pain in the...

BERP - Balance Edging Rotary and Pressure.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
BERP - Balance, Edging, Rotary, Pressure.

Now I see... y'all were speakin' american.

Makes sense... does this BERP equation represent the sequence of events then?

- Establish balance (re-center)
- Engage edges
- Apply rotary input/effort (us canadjuns call it "pivoting")
- Deal with forces generated as a result of continuing to increase edge angles

Is that anywhere close?

Seems my tendency is to BREP instead of BERP. This one, I'm going to work on.
post #15 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by niceturns
BERP - Balance, Edging, Rotary, Pressure.

Makes sense... does this BERP equation represent the sequence of events then?

- Establish balance (re-center)
- Engage edges
- Apply rotary input/effort (us canadjuns call it "pivoting")
- Deal with forces generated as a result of continuing to increase edge angles

Is that anywhere close?

Seems my tendency is to BREP instead of BERP. This one, I'm going to work on.
Not representative of sequence... just an anacronym to remember the 4 active skills. You basically have the idea; however, "Pressure" in the anacronym is the physical act of applying pressure (how/when) rather than "dealing with", but in the grand scheme of things they are related.
post #16 of 22
Ski like water
post #17 of 22
Reach, pressure, release. Not mine, but I like it. Later, RicB.
post #18 of 22
To everything...

Turn, turn, turn

There is a season...

Turn, turn, turn

And a time for every purpose...

Turn, turn, turn

Under heaven....

Turn, turn, turn
post #19 of 22

Turn 1..2..3..Turn 1..2..3.. Turn ...etc.

I offer this mantra in honor of a ski run at Mt. Holly Michigan, which has the only high speed chair in S.E. Lower Michigan.

To be more specific, it honors the name of a run and in case you haven't guessed it yet it is called "Mozart," yes the same Mozart who was one of the Viennese Waltz kings.

Turn 1...2...3...Turn...1..2...3....Turn...1...2...3... .Turn...1..2...3... Perhaps this is a better cadence for POW

Admittedly, you would have to count much faster for short radius turns, so if you are a slow counter....


Turn..1..Turn..2..Turn..1..Turn..2..Turn..1..Turn 2
post #20 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolo
To everything...

Turn, turn, turn

There is a season...

Turn, turn, turn

And a time for every purpose...

Turn, turn, turn

Under heaven....

Turn, turn, turn
Nolo, your advice is for the Byrds
post #21 of 22
I have a friend who starts out short radius with

slow, slow, slow

and quickly gets to

s@#*t, s@#*t, s@#*t
post #22 of 22
How about cut, cut, cut or slice, slice, slice, (one beat per turn at turn initiation).
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