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Couloir Extreme

post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
Anynone know the average/maximum pitch of the Couloir Extreme at Blackcomb. I've seen 48 degrees, but not sure if this is average or maximum.
post #2 of 35
Skied it many times I thought it was maybe between 48 & 52, so let's say 50.
post #3 of 35
Thread Starter 
I've skied Tuckermans many times and I was thinking it was at least 50. I skied it 3 times in 3 days, once on my leather tele boots, on plastic, and alpine gear. It was quite the sphincter pucker upper on my leather boots. I hadn't been that nervous since my first time up Tucks.
post #4 of 35
Hey, you're the "couloirman," aren't you? Why are you asking us? :

I skied it 2 years ago and I seemed pretty freaking steep to me. However it was the length that probably made it so challenging, as much as it was the pitch.
post #5 of 35
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'm sure length had much to do with it. It's got at least 500 ft more vert than Tucks, which can push 50-55 depending on snow accumulation. In my experience, less snow in Tucks makes for steeper skiing, and more rocks to hit. Plus, I've been skiing in CO for the last 5 years, and other than some very short pitches, not very steep, except for Silverton, where I'll be on Friday. People think A-Basin is steep, which compared to most other CO resorts, it is. But it might reach 45 on the East Wall, more likely less. The East Wall definitely doesn't get my heart racing like Couloir Extreme did.
post #6 of 35
You guys are talking about two different things. Tuckermans at Mount Washington and Coulior Extreme on Blackcomb at Whistler. I skied them both and Tuckermans is steeper. Coulior extreme at Whistler was fun and steep also, allthough we had more fun in Spankies

Alfonse
post #7 of 35
I don't know what the pitch is, but I know that there are quite a few different way into the Couloir. Some are steeper than others. I always take the easiest way in I can find. Depending on snow conditions, it can sometimes involve dropping in off a cornice. I've only skied it on a powder day when I know I wont die if I fall

I've scared myself a lot more off Spanky's, where one wrong turn can get you into a life/death situation.
post #8 of 35
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Originally Posted by couloir007
Anynone know the average/maximum pitch of the Couloir Extreme at Blackcomb. I've seen 48 degrees, but not sure if this is average or maximum.
You guys need one of these. You can get them at Home Depot or Amazon.com for cheap and they work great.

post #9 of 35
Its maybe 50 for the first few turns at the top. Then it mellows out to 40 or so pretty quick. The sylvain entry is harder and steeper as are hawaii 50 etc down chainsaw ridge.
post #10 of 35
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Posted by Alfonse
Coulior extreme at Whistler was fun and steep also, allthough we had more fun in Spankies
I agree with you there Alfonse. Spankies is more challenging, The Couloir, once you get into it, is plenty wide. In fact as I recall they run an annual GS on it - now that is a leg-burner!!
post #11 of 35
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Originally Posted by couloir007
Yeah, I'm sure length had much to do with it. It's got at least 500 ft more vert than Tucks, which can push 50-55 depending on snow accumulation. In my experience, less snow in Tucks makes for steeper skiing, and more rocks to hit. Plus, I've been skiing in CO for the last 5 years, and other than some very short pitches, not very steep, except for Silverton, where I'll be on Friday. People think A-Basin is steep, which compared to most other CO resorts, it is. But it might reach 45 on the East Wall, more likely less. The East Wall definitely doesn't get my heart racing like Couloir Extreme did.
Let us know how Silverton is. I'll be there next week.

I also agree that there is better stuff through Spanky's. If you go through the gate and hang an immediate left, walk along the ridge until it ends, then work you way straight ahead, it's an area called Calvin & Hobbes chute (or so I was told). Really fun and really steep. I also felt like Secret Chute was steeper (but shorter). There is also better and less crowded stuff off the skier's right of Harmony and off the Peak Chair (it that the right name? The one that takes you to Whistler bowl) - there's some really cool steep tree skiing if you go right off the lift, then traverse around and drop left. Unfortunately, it's two lifts to get back.

After all the hype of Extreme, the first time I got to W/B, I had to wonder what the big deal was. And I'm from the mid atlanitc. Maybe because it hadn't snowed in a while, and the entrance was easy, but it was 50 deg bumps! I've been there two other times, once in an epic snow year, and never really found it to be "all that".
post #12 of 35
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I'm not sure which entry I entered, but as you skied out the ridge, you went straight out, the highest entry point along the ridge. There was an entry that was much less steep if you skied skiers right and hooked around and lost a couple of hundred vertical feet. I remember going out on the ridge skiers left had pretty steep stuff, the most difficult thing being large drops just getting into the chutes, but they were shorter.
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
I agree with you there Alfonse. Spankies is more challenging, The Couloir, once you get into it, is plenty wide. In fact as I recall they run an annual GS on it - now that is a leg-burner!!
2500 Fett of thigh burning Hell!

Correct me if I am wrong but I think Spanky's Ladder is just the short hike up to the entrance to the Goat trail & Ruby, Garnet & Sapphire Bowls.
post #14 of 35
One of the steeper in bound easy to access runs (no serious drop in) I found last time I was there was immediately to the right as you get off Harmony. You duck under a rope (not closure, just to prevent people from walking off in a white out) and sidestep up 20 feet and drop into the bowl that leads down to Peak Chair. Anyone know the name of this run?
post #15 of 35
Atomic,

You are correct. Spanky's ladder is just an access gate to Blackcomb Galcier.

Gramboh, I don't know the name to that one, but if you hang a U-turn off the Peak Chair, right next to the lift shack, Liftie's Leap is also a fun one.

Harmony ridge is cool. The further around you go (to the left off the lift) the smaller the cornices get. The time I was there during an epic snow year, the first cornice had to have been a 40-50 foot drop and the overhang stuck out a good 20 feet. They blasted it and there were house-sized snow boulder at the bottom of that section. I was lucky enough to be the first one in, and it was sort of surreal. The skiing was so good, that I ignored the fact that it takes you into the bottom of a bowl, and I had to sidestep out.
post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by JohnH
Atomic,

You are correct. Spanky's ladder is just an access gate to Blackcomb Galcier.

Gramboh, I don't know the name to that one, but if you hang a U-turn off the Peak Chair, right next to the lift shack, Liftie's Leap is also a fun one.

Harmony ridge is cool. The further around you go (to the left off the lift) the smaller the cornices get. The time I was there during an epic snow year, the first cornice had to have been a 40-50 foot drop and the overhang stuck out a good 20 feet. They blasted it and there were house-sized snow boulder at the bottom of that section. I was lucky enough to be the first one in, and it was sort of surreal. The skiing was so good, that I ignored the fact that it takes you into the bottom of a bowl, and I had to sidestep out.
Actually Spanky's ladder is not to Blackcomb Galcier it is to Ruby,Garnet Diamond & Sapphire Bowls. the access to the Glacier is in a completly different area.

If you climb up Spanky's and enter the bowls you will come out at the trailhead of the Cat Track that is far below the Glacier that takes you back down to ta lower chair (Really long Cat Track)
post #17 of 35
That is the longest Cat Track I have ever seen. We skied for 5 minutes and then there is a sign, 2 miles to chairlift. Can anyone compare the skiing of off spankies to the Hobacks? I am heading to JH next week.

Alfonse
post #18 of 35
Atomic,

I'll take your word for it. I'm sure you know the place a lot better than me. I thought that everything over there was part of the glacier.
post #19 of 35
Alf,

Make sure you give us a report on JH, I am a week behind you.
post #20 of 35
Thread Starter 
I'll post some picks of Silverton.
post #21 of 35
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Originally posted by AtomicMan
Correct me if I am wrong but I think Spanky's Ladder is just the short hike up to the entrance to the Goat trail & Ruby, Garnet & Sapphire Bowls.
A'Man, you are absolutely correct, Spankies is the access. Never having a great memory for names of runs I use it as the generic area.
post #22 of 35
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
Hey, you're the "couloirman," aren't you? Why are you asking us? :
I better not see you asking any questions about carving.
post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by gramboh
One of the steeper in bound easy to access runs (no serious drop in) I found last time I was there was immediately to the right as you get off Harmony. You duck under a rope (not closure, just to prevent people from walking off in a white out) and sidestep up 20 feet and drop into the bowl that leads down to Peak Chair. Anyone know the name of this run?
Excitation!
post #24 of 35
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Originally Posted by JohnH
Atomic,

I'll take your word for it. I'm sure you know the place a lot better than me. I thought that everything over there was part of the glacier.
Nope!
post #25 of 35
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Originally Posted by gramboh
One of the steeper in bound easy to access runs (no serious drop in) I found last time I was there was immediately to the right as you get off Harmony. You duck under a rope (not closure, just to prevent people from walking off in a white out) and sidestep up 20 feet and drop into the bowl that leads down to Peak Chair. Anyone know the name of this run?

one on skiers left is Excitation. One on the right is Exhiliration. Not enough snow for that this year
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by Atomicman
2500 Fett of thigh burning Hell!
It seemed a lot scarier to me when I was last there five years ago. I just skied it a few times again the week before last. It sure didn't feel like it was 2500 vert. I've always felt that it skis like about a thousand.
post #27 of 35
Two years ago I was on Extreme Couloir and saw a happless soul crash royally, and cartwheel down the slope, expelling equipment with each turn. His bare head missed rock by inches twice. Remarkably, he didn't die or break anything.

I helped the bruised sod recover his equipment. I then immediately skied to the bottom and bought a helmet.

I estimate the slope was at least 50 degrees, and not for the faint of heart.
post #28 of 35
I know there is no point in asking this because it is so variable, but what are you guys expecting the Whistler conditions to be like mid-late March this season? If the snowpack is dismal right now, I don't think I want to plan a trip out (going to be visiting a friend in Vancouver). I was hoping to be able to ski the steep terrain in spring conditions.
post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by gramboh
I know there is no point in asking this because it is so variable, but what are you guys expecting the Whistler conditions to be like mid-late March this season? If the snowpack is dismal right now, I don't think I want to plan a trip out (going to be visiting a friend in Vancouver). I was hoping to be able to ski the steep terrain in spring conditions.
There are some pluses to a low base: I skied Pakalolo on Blackcomb the other day and the lower base makes the walls 'higher' (you are actually lower, of course) and because the walls angle inward it is narrower (therfore more thrilling, imo). Possibly steeper, too.
...and the prices are better: we paid $104 for two tickets at 7-11 (the best place for discount tickets for WB).
post #30 of 35

That would be the glacier bowl. I love that they have the stakes up when you get off the harmony chair here, because I think it keeps the heavy traffic out. I have found great snow here lasts longer.

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