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post #31 of 49
Thread Starter 
Yeah Bob, the more I read here, the more the Burnin Luv seems to be a real winner. AND it was what "ski shop guy" recommended.

Now after mulling it over a while, I am thinking for the amount of joy she gives me I should just take the leap and suprise her. She'll dig on that aspect of it and I don't think I can go wrong.
post #32 of 49
I've noticed that gonzo does two different kinds of posts. The first is level headed and very informational. He gave me great advice on buying some skis. The other is off the wall and usually confrontational. These are indicated by the fact that he doesn't use capital letters in the correct places. Sort of the e.e. cummings style of capitalization. He flamed me when I was agreeing with his post once, so just ignore it is all I can say.
post #33 of 49
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Originally Posted by surf2be
Now just one other question and that has to do with brand loyalty. Is it justified. I know I like my Dynastars a lot, so I am leaning that way for my next pair, but is that silly?
C'mon, surfer, you're the engineer. Get out there and demo!
post #34 of 49
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Originally Posted by pheft
I've noticed that gonzo does two different kinds of posts. The first is level headed and very informational. He gave me great advice on buying some skis. The other is off the wall and usually confrontational. These are indicated by the fact that he doesn't use capital letters in the correct places. Sort of the e.e. cummings style of capitalization. He flamed me when I was agreeing with his post once, so just ignore it is all I can say.
Gonzo confrontational!!! What really gets me is how he will attack someone because he makes assumptions about their intent, then really flame them when they give a better explanation. That happened in this thread and in a thread on alignment a day or two ago. These are often newbies who feel really violated by the strength of his hostility. The rest of us are used to him, though some still take him personally. Ah well, most of the rest of us try to compensate for him.LewBob
post #35 of 49
The websites of Ski and Skiing magazines have "ski selector" pages that allow you to input your goals for skis and then they recommend different skis for you or your wifes ski preferences.

I agree with PhysicsMan that a good instructor should be able to at least recommend a category of skis and later would help her to get the most out of them.

dt
post #36 of 49
Oops! Grammer error on my part. I was reading: "opinions on my wives"

Not that I'd have much to contribute. I only lived in Salt Lake City for a year.
post #37 of 49
Just because a ski is supposed to be the best ski, it doesn't mean its the best ski for her...
post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Just because a ski is supposed to be the best ski, it doesn't mean its the best ski for her...
True. I took advantage of demo days at Keystone this year I ended up not on the newest "hot" skis but a ski that was not even on my list. You never know till you try em.
post #39 of 49
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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
Oops! Grammer error on my part. I was reading: "opinions on my wives"

Not that I'd have much to contribute. I only lived in Salt Lake City for a year.
Yea I was pretty tempted to work that angle. Glad someone did, it was really crying out for it.
post #40 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by L7
Yea I was pretty tempted to work that angle. Glad someone did, it was really crying out for it.
I had to get you to read it
post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by PhysicsMan
Not really an answer to your question about appropriate equipment, but a related comment about her technique ...

While I obviously haven't seen her ski, from your description, I would be willing to bet that her graceful technique was developed from years of being on straight skis. Such technique usually involves lots of rotary motion of the lower body and heel-pushing windshield-wiper turns. That's probably how she stays in the 4 foot wide corridor.

If she is handed new equipment without appropriate instruction, she will probably continue to use the same technique. It will work, but it will not allow her to get the most out of the new equipment. Even worse, she will likely feel that the new, short, deeply sidecut skis are unstable and dislike them. This happens to many folks with similar skiing backgrounds.

My recommendation would be for her to take a lesson on rental/demo equipment of newer design before you buy anything for her. In the first few seconds of the lesson, most instructors will sense whether her technique needs an update to work best with the new skis, and will give her the appropriate coaching.

Tom / PM
i went from 185 straight ski to 163 shaped volant super carve . at the time it took me a day and a half to figure out how to ski them and that i liked them. my husband bought them for me and would not let me take my beloved olins up that weekend. he said i would love my shaped skiis.then i thought they were not enogh ski for me and they were too short.
i then got the womans's salomon crossmax a few years ago at 170- i loved them for about a year but i felt i needed more of a solid ski, esp. when we went out west, did not feel solid at speed and i am no demon ,i am the last one down!!! i demoed the head monster im75 chip last march and just put the crossmax back on for a check run and threw them back in the trunk. i absolutely love my monsters. i am 125, 5'6" the monsters are 163 , my husband now has the 170, he is about 6" .he bought then just because i raved about them so much, he got a better bargain than i did,tho. i did not demo a smaller size.
if she is a good skier, she should definitely demo several pairs, and it does take time to get used to the new shape
hope this helps
post #42 of 49
Hi Nancie - I'm not sure why you put the little "mad" icon on your post. Do you disagree strongly with something in my earlier post?

If so, I think you will find that in just about all the previous times this question has arisen on Epic, the concensus has always been the same: Making the switch from straight to "shapes" is not as easy as it might seem if you want to get the most out of the new skis. Here are a few examples of old threads on this topic that immediately turned up by doing a simple search:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+l esson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+l esson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson

Tom / PM
post #43 of 49
Nancie,

When my wife was on her beloved X8's in a 189, I got her some powerKarves in a 173, just as a ski to take out west and for heavy snow. She begrudging tried them and after one run, she said "get rid of the X8's, I never want to see them again" my chin nearly hit the snow. She is now on a Vertex 68 in a 160. Not too different.
post #44 of 49
Rather than worrying about which ski to demo try to focus on demoing a variety of ski shapes. At the least that would have you trying Slalom, GS, All Mountain SL, and All Mountain GS sidecuts. Once you figure out which shape she enjoys skiing than you can compare a few different brands that fit that category. Also, if she is just awesome using a traditional technique then you might want to have her demo a Salomon Pocket Rocket as well. Its wider for powder skiing and crud busting, but I have seem some women using traditional technique ski it very very nicely.
post #45 of 49
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Originally Posted by PhysicsMan
Hi Nancie - I'm not sure why you put the little "mad" icon on your post. Do you disagree strongly with something in my earlier post?

If so, I think you will find that in just about all the previous times this question has arisen on Epic, the concensus has always been the same: Making the switch from straight to "shapes" is not as easy as it might seem if you want to get the most out of the new skis. Here are a few examples of old threads on this topic that immediately turned up by doing a simple search:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+l esson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+l esson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...aight+le sson

Tom / PM
that was an accident putting the icon there-sorry !
thanks for the links,tho!
post #46 of 49
Thread Starter 
Thanks from the heart for all the replies and info. All good stuff.

After dwelling on it for a few days, I think I may have come up with the format my question probably needed to be originally. Here's a swipe (and please don't read TOO much into it, I am an engineer not a writer or linquist) - How do I get my wife to be in tune to what is critical and what she needs to pay attention to when she demos skis? As she will be impressed with most everything she will try, besides the obvious plan of do many trials, are there any major key points that tend to let an expert skier know that they have hit the mark with the right ski? And take into account that she cannot verbalize or analyis her skiing and equipment as most of you folks can/do, but I'd believe she can ski right up there with many of you.

And to clarfiy these are not her first shaped ski, she's been on the Axium for over two years now. She had absolutely no issue with the transition from a straighter ski to those, in fact she loved them right out of the gate. But this next purchase will to her first true hi-performance ski. And being a family with a limited budget, I am trying to get the most from our buck.

Thanks again!
post #47 of 49
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Originally Posted by surf2be

I am an engineer
Ah! Perhaps your scientific mindset has become too focused on your wife's skis and whether or not her choice will coincide with your idea of 'getting the most for your money'.
What can you do but give her the names of the skis recommended here and leave it to her?

She's the superior skier, right? You wouldn't tell Sarah McLachlan which piano she should choose, would you?

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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Let her get out, she will tell you what she likes and don't like. Then make sure you let her try a couple of sizes.
"Let her"?

I'm checking th calander to see if it's 2005 or 1905
post #48 of 49
If your wife is that good, there is no such thing as overkill. Go with the Burnin' Luv or one of the high end Atomic Women's skis. Don't cheap out on the bindings either! Higher Din Ranges aren't the only thing that comes with a more expensive binding! With Atomic, of course the Neox System 4-10 would be ideal. For the K2 get a nice Marker 12.0 Free (the ski already has a built in riser). If she looks that good on the 2x4's you've got her on now, a nice set of skis will really make you look like a hack next to her.
post #49 of 49
hey guys ...

no one has ever actually seen his wife ski, so we're simply going on what he describes as a great, effortless skier. he has also mentioned that they normally ski groomers and that she is currently using very low-end equipment.

it stands to reason that a strong, athletic skier would REALLY overpower the gear she's on (Rossi Axium). skiing fast or agressive carving would cripple those skis. if she's happy on them, then perhaps the reverse is true - she is very practiced at slowish, skidded turns on moderate terrain.

she may be an incredible graceful, confident and fluid intermediate skier. we don't know because we have not seen her ski.

scalce - you asked about overpowering the burnin luv. I own a pair and ski them in every condition on all terrain -- and I am not a small or weak woman. even the best of recreational skiers should have no fear of the burnin luv not being enough ski for them. the question will always be: are you enough of a skier for the burnin luv!

I have learned that skis are like horses:
- if the ski is too much for you, it will take you for a punishing ride
- you surprise the ski and it will buck you right out of that turn

and, (hey, I'm on a good rant here) why are we so focused on the skis when we all know the first step is great fitting boots. if she's in a comfy intermediate boot what good is a stiff, carving ski going to do her?

with all due respect to everyone here, I think there are tons of questions that need to be asked before we give our answers.
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