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post #31 of 52
I wanted something lighter so I could hit the bumps more easily.

For me it's more versatile.
post #32 of 52
Phil: Glad you got the 162's. Now I can borrow them next time we go to Blue -- oops, Elk. Evan. BTW, did you try the B5?
post #33 of 52
Congrats on the choice of skis, Phil. It's about time you got outta Volant mode I guess that's the danger of demoing new gear. You often start thinking about getting something new even though you had been previously happy on your old skis. I didn't know you could mount Solly bindings on the Metrons. Did you use the pre-drilling holes or ????
post #34 of 52
I skied the 162 & 172 B5 at sun Peaks, Bc last weekend.

Loved 'em both, but I think I would buy the 172. I could keep up with my 19 year old on his 186 GS11 World Cups & I was on the 162. The snow was very firm. Lots of fun rollers on the groomers too.

they'd make GS, Slalom & Sg turns with ease and stability.

Also skied them in fairly firm cut up crud with bumps on the 172. Amazingly stable. Made it like skiing groomed.

Both skis carved with ease like crazy.

I might buy 3 pair. 1 for each of us. 2 172's and a 162 for my younger son. My 19 year old (Very proficient FIS level racer) skied on the 172 and couldn't believe it. He was very skeptical before he tried 'em!

When I skied the M11 last year, I thought it was too soft for me.
post #35 of 52
I hear the B5's in a 162 are pretty hard to come by.
post #36 of 52
I've heard the 172 is difficult too.
post #37 of 52
Thread Starter 
I went with the XI over the B:5 A, for weight and 2. for price, the XI's were 40% off and the B:5 was only 25% off.

The Salomons didn't fit the pre-drilled holes but I had no issues with the mounting process. The combination is unusually light.
post #38 of 52
How did you mount them?
post #39 of 52
Way to go Phil!!!!!

Metron-man!
post #40 of 52
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
How did you mount them?
I brought my Salomon jig with me and I put plugs in any holes that I thought might be exposed (none were). In mounting the screws, I hand tightened them as tight as I could with no slippage. I am not anticipating any issues.
post #41 of 52
I hope the plate is strong enough where your screws are. I have not pulled the plate off to look at it from the backside to see exactly what you are screwed into.

hope it works for ya.

Just 1 more question. What is the obsession with weight? Do you hike out to the backcountry? I am not sure your Salomons are that much lighter than a Neox?
post #42 of 52
Phil - out of the box and straight to Mad River! Wow!
post #43 of 52
Good for you, Phil. Keep us updated on how they turn out... I might copy you next year.
post #44 of 52
Man, with all this fuss, I thought someone else got a pair of 8000's.
post #45 of 52
Hey guys, remember that Volants are now Atomics with a steel topskin. I took some runs with the importer at Steamboat last weekend. Though he is not that technical, he claims that the new Volants use Atomic cores now. And with Volant you get that nice velvet bag!!
post #46 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I went with the XI over the B:5 A, for weight and 2. for price, the XI's were 40% off and the B:5 was only 25% off.

The Salomons didn't fit the pre-drilled holes but I had no issues with the mounting process. The combination is unusually light.
and 3 for the bindings, eh, Phil?
post #47 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by LewBob
Hey guys, remember that Volants are now Atomics with a steel topskin. I took some runs with the importer at Steamboat last weekend. Though he is not that technical, he claims that the new Volants use Atomic cores now. And with Volant you get that nice velvet bag!!
I think that's a bit overstated. They are owned by the same company and undoubtedly use common technology at various levels, but there is nothing in the Volant line like a Metron. The torque generated at tip and tail by the very wide extremities with the relatively narrow waist means that the engineers need some very specific ways of independently controlling tortional and logitudinal flex characteristics. There are a number of ways of doing this, and Atomic uses the Puls or Mg channels. Volant uses the structural characteristics of the steel cap. They require different designs to do that.

This is one of the reasons that I'm interested to see how Rossi is going to handle this with the new Zenith Z9. Has anyone skied them, yet?
post #48 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by wbroun
Good for you, Phil. Keep us updated on how they turn out... I might copy you next year.
Not tryng to be a jerk but I remember you mentioning that you don't ski any blacks at big resorts.

If that is the case I woudl stay away from ther XI's.

Go with the IX or X's and you will be much happier and progress faster.
post #49 of 52
ssh, I didn't say they were a Metron with steel topskin, just an Atomic core. And I was mainly kidding Phil and you guys about the 2 brands being the same. The differences in tops and sidecut are huge!
post #50 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by LewBob
ssh, I didn't say they were a Metron with steel topskin, just an Atomic core. And I was mainly kidding Phil and you guys about the 2 brands being the same. The differences in tops and sidecut are huge!
Sorry, LewBob... I should have let that one go. In other words, "You got me!"
post #51 of 52
Thread Starter 
Wow, I actually have access at MRG. Skied XI's today, I will post review later.
post #52 of 52
How are the Metron M:11 compares to the Metron M:9 that you demo'ed previously?

Thanks
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