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Snowshoe for my b-day!

post #1 of 20
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Well my boyfriend has decided to take me to Snowshoe for my 22nd b-day!! We are going to ski for 3 days! I am totally psyched! We try to make it to Snowshoe every season Any b-day that includes skiing will be a good one

So has anyone made it to Snowshoe this winter? What are the conditions like? From the looks of the website most/all of the trails are up and running. I just hope the weather holds up! It has been in the 50's the last two days. We are planning on skiing the 18-20(my b-day!) I hope there is still good coverage then. Didn't the ground hog say there is still some winter left?

Oh also...any recommendation of what to do there? Places to eat, etc? We have been there a few times, but all we do is ski of course! Just wondering, in case we get hungry, or curious

Thanks for any info that you can provide in advance.

Counting down the days till my ski-filled b-day weekend, weeee!!!
post #2 of 20
Eat at Foxfire for some good BBQ or the Red Fox Inn if he's paying. After the cold front moves through they'll make plenty of snow - don't worry about that. If (when) the crowds get to get too much on the basin side - head to Silver Creek.
post #3 of 20
Heard mixed reports. My buddie was there and it snowed 14 inches, he said conditions were awsome. Also talked to my father in law, he was there 2 weeks ago and said the conditions were pretty bad,icy and slush. If there's a cold front moving you'll be fine.
post #4 of 20
They finally opened Lower Shay's about two weeks ago.
post #5 of 20
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Is that a black or double black? I am too much of a wuss to venture into the Western Territory. I am not used to moguls. I have only been down them a couple of times. I'd rather practice on blue than black. This is only my third season, so I am not an expert,hehe My bf might try to get me on some of those trails by the third day though.
Thanks for the info
post #6 of 20
Lower Shays is double black, one of the steepest trails in the Mid Atlantic. Upper Shays is not nearly as steep and usually groomed. You can bail out of Upper Shays to lower cupp, if you are not up to the challenge of lower shays.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Himihon
Lower Shays is double black, one of the steepest trails in the Mid Atlantic. Upper Shays is not nearly as steep and usually groomed. You can bail out of Upper Shays to lower cupp, if you are not up to the challenge of lower shays.
Damn, is it one of the steepest? Didn't seem that steep to me. The other trails back there are more like blue's anyways, they aren't that hard. You shouldn't have any problems...
post #8 of 20
Lower Shays is listed as a 28 degree slope, which is pretty impressive for a mid-atlantic slope. 95 percent of the time it is bumped up as well. Usually gigantic bumps of ice. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who isn't an expert. The other part of the western territory Cupp, Upper Shays are doable, but are more difficult than the other single blacks on the basin side. Lower cupp is steeper than anything you will find at 7 springs, Canaan Valley, Wisp, Hidden Valley, etc.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Himihon
Lower Shays is listed as a 28 degree slope, which is pretty impressive for a mid-atlantic slope. 95 percent of the time it is bumped up as well. Usually gigantic bumps of ice. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who isn't an expert. The other part of the western territory Cupp, Upper Shays are doable, but are more difficult than the other single blacks on the basin side. Lower cupp is steeper than anything you will find at 7 springs, Canaan Valley, Wisp, Hidden Valley, etc.
28 degrees? That has got to be an error? Thats like a blue cruiser. Shays is a real toughie.

And I ahve to disagree abotu cupp. It has been described to me as basicly a glorfied blue cruiser with a few whales and rolls to it. It may be more challenging because of the 1500' vertical. But I don't believe that it is steeper than the trails you mentioned. Linky
post #10 of 20
Maybe I meant 28 percent, I get degrees and percent mixed up. Anyway, I worked at Snowshoe last winter, and whoever you are talking to doesn't know what they are talking about. Lower Shays is one straight consistant drop. It is steep, the only thing I could compare it to (mid atlantic) would be Lower Wildcat at Laurel Mountain, and I hear Extrovert at Blue knob but I haven't been to blue knob and it is rarely open anyways. There are 2 top-bottom runs (4 named trails) in the western. All 4 are true expert trails for the mid atlantic, with Lower Shays being one of the most difficult trails around, and always bumped up. Lower Cupp is usually groomed, but is also quite steep.
post #11 of 20
Did some research, actually lower shays is 31 degrees or about 60 percent.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Himihon
Lower Shays is listed as a 28 degree slope, which is pretty impressive for a mid-atlantic slope. 95 percent of the time it is bumped up as well. Usually gigantic bumps of ice. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who isn't an expert. The other part of the western territory Cupp, Upper Shays are doable, but are more difficult than the other single blacks on the basin side. Lower cupp is steeper than anything you will find at 7 springs, Canaan Valley, Wisp, Hidden Valley, etc.
I agree lilskeer will be able to handle most of the Western Territories and should give it a go this trip. I usually don't agree with those who say East Coast blacks are like West Coast blues but Snowshoe is one area where they are correct and they probably are one of the main reasons for this perception. This truly is one East Coast resort that over inflates its terrain difficulty and trail ratings. (Yeah, I know ratings are relative to the mountain's other trails only.) I remember when Cupp was left a mogul field the entire length and may have deserved a diamond. Now, it is nothing more than a groomed blue cruiser. Very doable and enjoyable for someone practicing on blues.

Lower Shays would justify a single black diamond in most areas of the country and is not a true double. Still, lilskeer should probably save that part of the run for future trips.

For those wanting steeper terrain in the Mid-Atlantic region, you have to head south to North Carolina or north to Pennsylvania. NC has a couple of areas with several runs in the 28 to 38 degree range. Fun stuff and the reason why I won't make the 8 plus hour trip to the Shoe anymore.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Himihon
Did some research, actually lower shays is 31 degrees or about 60 percent.
I may agree with you that it is in the 30 degree range at its steepest spot. It also seems to me to be a little steeper than the 52 percent Snowshoe claims on their website. BTW, that is around 27 degrees. I did not measure it and was only judging with my eyes and going by previous experience. That experience has also taught me that my eyes can be easily deceived when judging the angle of a slope.
post #14 of 20
The only reason that I discourage people into going over to the western territory is because of the amount of injuries and a death earlier this year that occurred on lower cupp. No, these abnormally amount of injuries and fatalities are not the cause of it being too steep but rather the amount of traffic and ability of skiers that it draws. They used to have a midstation right before lower cupp, where ski patrollers would stand and pick out inexperienced skiers to put them back on the lift. So I would recommend if you can ski widowmaker and knot bumper w/ relative ease, and feel that you could extend this into a 1500 vertical run then go for cupp. I disagree that cupp is comparable to blue cruisers in the mid-atlantic. Blue cruisers out west, absolutely. Maybe, there are some hidden jackson holes in the mid atlantic that i haven't been to yet. Ive skied every ski area in wv, and almost every area in western pa and cupp would qualify as a single black at every single one of those resorts.
post #15 of 20
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Sometimes I have trouble telling blacks from blue and other times it is quite clear. This was my experience when I first saw Cupp and Snowshoe. I knew it was black. There were so many moguls at the top!
Last time I went skiing (7S) I didn't pay much attention to the trail markings. I just went down slopes that looked appropriate for my skiing level. I am not sure if they were black or blue. Of course I am not crazy! Ha,ha I didn't go down Goosebumps...
Some black diamonds are just a bit, uhm..daunting...
post #16 of 20
I would recommend that you try out Cupp during the morning (before 11). Lower Cupp tends to get crowded and skied down after that.
post #17 of 20
There are a couple of parts of Cupp that are as steep as Goosebumps, just groomed. Sounds like lilskeer knows what she is doing to stay on basin side of Snowshoe or try Silver Creek, unless she gains a burst of confidence later in her visit.
post #18 of 20
Lower Shays is pretty damn steep, but only for that one section. To me, the main problem is that it rarely has good snow -- any time I have been out there, it's either been a sheet of ice or icy bumps, and neither appeals to me (what good is a challenging steep trail if I have to do granny turns to stay alive). I have even timed trips to be at Snowshoe when they get a snow storm and been disappointed in lower Shays -- because of a lousy base, fresh stuff tends to ski off or blow off very easily. Maybe I need to ski it when they get fresh snow on top of a few weeks of favorable weather. Never been there in those circumstances (may not exist!).

Craig
post #19 of 20
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Thanks again for the info guys! I usually ski in the afternoon, or evening. But on this special trip I am gonna get up early and hit the slopes. I want to get in as much ski time as I can. 5 days left, 3 days straight! I am looking forward to this trip! I am not sure if I'll be up to the Western Territory blacks, but I might go on Widowmaker and some other regular black, also Silver creek area would be good since we'll be there for 3 days.
So Cupp isn't too busy in the am eh? What about the rest of the mountain? Like I said I don't have too much early morning experience.
post #20 of 20
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I just wanted to say that I had a fantastic b-day weekend skiing at snowshoe. I did go down Cupp run several times. It is a great trail! I also was brave enough to go down Shay's Revenge! Man those double black diamonds are challenging! I did not fall the first time down though
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