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Tecnica Diablo Fire: A Review

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Background: 23 yrs, 5'11" 160. Level ??? i should take the time to figure that out.... but fairly decent, at least "advanced". My Lange Banshee's were getting old and I was having a hard time steering with my right foot last thursday... something that's come up in the past. (I have big calves that attatch fairly high which leaves me with low volume ankles and lower legs... I was really having to crank down hard to get good contact and that just wasn't cool) After trying on whole slew of boots (yeah...those kryptons are pretty narrow...) I finally settled on the Diablo Fire Ultrafits.

Store Fit/ Reasons I picked them: I sized down from a 27.5 in my banshee's (which was a good fit) to a 26 in the diablo fire, this seems to be similiar to what others have done. I was looking for something that would address the fit of my lower leg and was willing to give up a little foot volume if need be. The Diablos are definately a V. shaped last, but i need to point out that the instep is still fairly low volume. (I had the buckle on the second latch and it was plenty tight) the Toes are comfortable, but more importantly the boot seemed to have really good contact with my shin and lower leg. The flex was ALOT softer then I had anticipated. I had put a booster strap on my Lange's and really enjoyed the smoother flex which helped me to stay more balanced. Because of this I initially went in looking at the Diablo Flames, but they were entirely too soft. The Fires had the smooth forward flex i was looking for, but didn't seem like i could over power it easily like the Flames. Having a flex adjustment, dual pivot, adjustable height spoiler (with extra shims) and extra "ankle retaining strips" seemed to provide the adjustability that would help me out.

On The Hill It was a warm day at mount snow today, which made for smooth conditions in the morning leading into some pretty heavy/ choppy snow in the after noon. I initially had the boot set on the "flex" position, which seemed to be a bit too soft for the warmth. This was causing me to keep my CM back so that I wouldn't over power the front of the boot. I changed that to "lock" and the problem went away. The fit was great, I expected my feet to be pretty sore from breaking the boots in, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected.

If I were to describe the boots in one word, it would be "playful". They felt light and sleek on my feet and encouraged me to bust through the heavy snow and carve some nice medium- big turns. I was catching alot of air off the knolls and the smooth flex made balance dynamic. I feel as though I was centered because I could be balanced in the air even during mid-turn. I thought they were very solid laterally and definately encouraged/supported a two-footed stance. The "Northface" area got relatively skied off and stayed in the shadows. Because this is the steeper section of Mt Snow and it was hard snow, it was a great place to try out some shorter turns. The Fire's were definately better then the Banshee's when it came to steering. I was still conscious of a little bit of sloppiness from my right foot (I might have this looked at by someone, I feel like the volume of my right leg is less then my left OR perhaps i'm doing something odd with my technique causing me to notice a discprenancy). (of note... my right foot is definately a bit smaller then my left. As of now I'd say there is "pressure" between my left toe and the liner and "slight pressure" between the right and the liner. Is there anything I can do to address this issue or is it not a major problem?)

Over all, I'm happy with my New Fires. I think that as the liner breaks in a bit more and I get used to them then I'll only be moving up. I'd expect similiar results from someone else my size, but a heavier, hard charging skier might find them a bit soft.
post #2 of 7
Hi RJP...
I have the flames. The flex (locked) on 20 degree days is about like my old tecnica TC3`s, a lot stiffer than in the shop. After about 5 days out i have adjusted 2 notches tighter as they do indeed pack out.
My question to you is... did you notice an improvement on edging the uphill ski? The diablo was partly designed for four edge skiing if i understand correctly. I do notice the effect.
post #3 of 7
Sounds like the boots are pretty soft.
post #4 of 7
Originally Posted by skierzzzzzz
Sounds like the boots are pretty soft.
There are different schools of thought about this subject. I prefer a softer flexing boot and lateral stiffness for forgiveness, balance, better edge control on the uphill ski, moguls and whatever else i don`t know about. I am not a aggressive skier but like to let the skis fly when conditions permit.
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In the diablos I felt that I could distribute my weight much more effectively between the uphill and downhill ski. In the langes it felt like I was 10/90, with the diablos it was really easy to be at 40/60 or so... this made for great balance when busting through the heavy choppy snow. by edging the uphill and down hill ski together I had an easier time keeping my legs "soft" which kept them carving. When my weight gets mainly on the outside leg, that leg stiffens up and I'd lose an edge in the rough stuff.

Skierz's- The boot is soft compared to something like the lange comp 120's, its a bit softer/smoother then the freeride 120's. This is only in the forward flex though, laterally they are bomber.

If you want something to tear up the corduroy or the boilerplate, this isn't the boot for you. I'm not going to lie. But if you want something for all mountain... will survive the ice, do great on the cord and awesome everywhere else... then i'd def suggest giving the fire's a shot
post #6 of 7
I've had two weeks on my Fire's. I was unaware that the 'flex lock' actually altered the flex resistance, but thought it just limited the amount of forward flex available.
At least this is what it felt like when I had both boots on, one with the lock on & with the other set to flex & did some ankle flexing/boot crunching etc.

The limit of rearward flex, ie how upright the cuff was, seemed identical on both settings. I can see that when the lock is set to flex, then this could allow you to get your weight further forward as you could acheive greater ankle flex. However, this is exactly the opposite to RJP's statement.

Am I correct or am I talking bo**ocks?
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
To clarify...
... your statement is entirely correct. I felt like with the setting on "flex" there was too much forward flex which caused me to be cautious with how forward I got... because I was consciously trying to not be too far forward, i ended up in the back seat a bit. If I was a little bit ahead of center...when my skis hit the heavy/choppy snow it felt like i was about go over the tips so i ended up a little bit behind centered until i switched the flex setting.
This might not be true for all conditions...it was almost 50 out (saw a guy skiing in cut-off jean shorts) which made the boots pretty soft. I expect them to be stiffer in "winter" conditions

For those who are afraid that the boots are too soft, and this post would make you think so, the tecnica booklet says that you can insert screws into both dual pivots and stiffen the flex up beyond what the dedicated flex control will.
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