EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Atomic Variozone Binding QUESTIONS?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Atomic Variozone Binding QUESTIONS?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
CR412...

There is a small round window on the toe piece with a red/yellow indicator... "backward release".

What’s the purpose of this indicator?

I have mine set on red (locked). What’s the need for yellow (active)???

Which Variozone setting would be best for bumps?
post #2 of 18
It is for the "backward release." The binding mounting instructions state that in either position safety is not compromised, which I presume to mean the sideways release or DIN of the toepiece is not affected. I interpret this to mean if my skis went completely out from underneath me and I fell completely helpless to the rear they would or would not release upwards or backwards (depending on how you look at it). I have mine set on yellow...I have never had a backward release...yet. Others may advise you differently...but that is my take on the matter. I do recall someone who raced with this particular binding stated he was "locked in" meaning the red position. Set it in the forward most for easier turning and in the rear most for speed. I vary between the two forwardmost settings. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS if you have them.
post #3 of 18
I think most people leave it in the locked position.
post #4 of 18
I believe I have the regular Atomic 412 bindings (dont know the difference between regular and CR.

Anyway, is this related to the 3 settings on the bindings, they are something like speed, normal, and something else?

If you aren't, do you know how to adjust this setting (I didnt get any instructions with my bindings).
post #5 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by BumpRyder
I believe I have the regular Atomic 412 bindings (dont know the difference between regular and CR.

Anyway, is this related to the 3 settings on the bindings, they are something like speed, normal, and something else?

If you aren't, do you know how to adjust this setting (I didnt get any instructions with my bindings).
On the very front of the toe piece there is a plastic tip that can be pushed to the side and then the whole binding can slide to whatever zone you want.

It will click back into place when it is locked into the new setting.
post #6 of 18
BumpRyder, if you are referring to Varizone, and I'm not sure you are, then there is a piece on the toe that swings out (it should be obvious) and then toe piece is free to move move forward or backward...but of course the heel piece has to move in a corresponding movement in order for the binding to still fit the boot. It wont move until you take off the plastic piece...it has a proper name that I don't recall....it's an anti-friction device...and you should see the hole correspnding to your boot length...lift up the piece, slide the toe piece where you want, move the heel piece right back to the same hole. In other words you will have moved the entire binding forward or backward. Not a great description but you should be able to figure this out.
post #7 of 18
On Variozone (not upward release, which, as noted, is something else):

You shouldn't need to fool with the plastic cover, or disconnect the toe and the heel, to move the binding. Just slide the lever (front part of the toe-piece) to the right, and slide the whole shebang (toe and heel) forward or back. The heel-piece is in a track, and it's free (freeish, anyway) to slide forward and back. The metal band connects it to the toe-piece, so they move together, once the toe is free to move.

The lever (front of the toe-piece) will click back, locking the binding into a new position.

In other words: just what Scalce said.

Incidentally, there are four positions on a 412 binding, not three.
post #8 of 18
One note, put some upward pressure on the pointed switch when you are trying to move it sideways to disengage the varizone lock. It makes it much easier to unlock. On some of the bindings that part is plastic some it is metal.
post #9 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalce
I think most people leave it in the locked position.
I always have mine in the unlocked but it has never released backwards. I'm 180 and use a toe DIN of 7. Has anyone actually had a backwards release? Just curious.
post #10 of 18
I've had it locked and unlocked ... I don't think I've ever had an upward release. DIN is 8.5, usually, if that is of interest.
post #11 of 18
I always have mine locked.
post #12 of 18
Mine are locked for racing, unlocked for free skiing.

By the way, I have had several good Atomic-trained techs (at least three I can recall) set the binding on the ski so that the Verizone feature doesn't work properly (only goes one notch forward, none back as I recall). I always check them before leaving the shop if the binding has been off the ski. I believe it has something to do with my short bootsole length (296) and the binding needing to be set differently than for an "average" bootsole, so check the binding movement forward and back, especially if you have smallish boots.
post #13 of 18
All of ours are always locked.

A 296mm bootsole should not be a problem for Variozone adjustmen
post #14 of 18
Maybe that (loss of Variozone movement) problem could arise if the heel track is mounted in the wrong set of holes? I couldn't say, as I've never mounted one in the wrong position ....

I guess it could also happen if you don't screw the mounting screws all the way in.
post #15 of 18
At a 276mm bootsole length you are limited in Variozone adjustment in that you cannot slide the unit forward far enough forward to use the 2 forward (on a 6.14) positions because the heel piece hits the brake assembly before you can get to those forward positions.

A 296 should be fine.

Keep in mind with a 296 you should set the holes in the steel band to 290 on the band attached to the toe piece and the heel track should be mounted in the center holes (I believe 280-330) on the plate.

The toepiece should be mounted in the holes farthest back on the plate. (Less than 305)

Also keep in mind all of the above must be done with the Varizone toe adjustment in the "AllAround" position.
post #16 of 18
All,

Yes, you all have id-ed the problem - wrong hole assumptions - but it keeps happening. :
post #17 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
At a 276mm bootsole length you are limited in Variozone adjustment in that you cannot slide the unit forward far enough forward to use the 2 forward (on a 6.14) positions because the heel piece hits the brake assembly before you can get to those forward positions.
Atomicman, my bootsole length is 284mm and I also cannot use the 2 forward positions (2004 Atomic SL:11 and Race 412) because as you stated, the heel piece hits the brake assembly. Is this simply a limitation of the binding setup with the ski, or did the shop install the bindings wrong?



I've got a set of old (circa 1991-ish) ESS VAR Racing 412 bindings on some old straight long skis that have no problem sliding all the way forward and back... Is it that the new Atomic skis come with pre-drilled holes which allow the bindings only to move so far forward with smaller boots?

Thanks!
post #18 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by f2racer
Atomicman, my bootsole length is 284mm and I also cannot use the 2 forward positions (2004 Atomic SL:11 and Race 412) because as you stated, the heel piece hits the brake assembly. Is this simply a limitation of the binding setup with the ski, or did the shop install the bindings wrong?



I've got a set of old (circa 1991-ish) ESS VAR Racing 412 bindings on some old straight long skis that have no problem sliding all the way forward and back... Is it that the new Atomic skis come with pre-drilled holes which allow the bindings only to move so far forward with smaller boots?

Thanks!
Yes, a symptom of small bootitis, not to be confused with small bootyitis!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Atomic Variozone Binding QUESTIONS?