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Anyone have experience with the Fischer RC or SC?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hey guys- I was wondering if anyone has skied the Fischer RC or SC extensively. I have the retail "race stock" version of both the Fischer SL and GS ski, but was thinking of a 3rd ski for the quiver. I just picked up some Volkl 6* that I will finally get on snow tomorrow. While I am not going to pass judgment on them without using them, I now wonder if there are better and cheaper skis for what I want to do... thus I am thinking about the Fischer.

So my question is, would either the RC or SC be a good choice for free skiing and the occastional Nastar or wide slalom/right GS bear league race? I was thinking 170 in the SC or 175-180 in the RC? Cost is also a factor because these can be had for 1/2 the price of the 6* on the used market.
post #2 of 16
I have 175cm RC's that are two years old and I have skied a few times on last years RC in 180cm. I weigh 170 lbs. Last years RC's are stiffer than mine and the 180's I skied are much more ski than my 175's. The 175's are fun carvers on decent snow and adequate off pist as long as bumps aren't too tight. Both are stable and damp but the 175's carve much tighter turns. They have more sidecut than my previous RC's which were Volk P40 F1's. The Volkls were faster because of the less sidecut.

For firm snow I am shopping for some slalom skis so I can carve turns at slower speeds and I am also considering Fischer WC SC's among others. For nice soft snow and deep snow I have Pocket Rockets.

Feel free to ask questions.

Doug
post #3 of 16
I had a pair of WC SC in 160 cms that I skied in every condition from near-ice hardpack to packed pow to crud up to 8" deep, to nearly 10" new snow. I found they were fun in all those conditions, but they have a VERY small sweet spot fore/aft, and a VERY small preferred turn radius, so be aware of that. you can make medium to large turns on them, but you have to be VERY careful as to how much you pressure fore vs aft when you're mach-snelling in a series of big turns... too much shovel pressure and you'll flip right over the tips and maybe even tweak a knee!

RC SC is supposed to be somewhat more relaxed and probably would be the better choice as an "all-around" ski for someone who is on groomers 85% of the time or more.
post #4 of 16
Gonzostrike

Wow, I would hate to go over the bars because I was pressing to forward in a long fast turn. I heard the WC SC works well in longer lengths than other SL skis. May I please ask how much you weigh?

Doug
post #5 of 16
160 lbs, 5'10"
post #6 of 16
Gonzostrike - Do you think you would have liked 165's more or even 170's? I would think longer ones would solve the short turn preference problem and the fore aft balance too.

Doug
post #7 of 16
I demoed the WC SC (165cm I am 175 and 5'10") extensively -- and I agree with Gonzo ... smallish sweet spot. But for hardpack and groomed (only) maybe the most fun I have ever had on a ski. Also wicked good on ice -- like skates!!

One caveat ... when you get tired, they will ski you, you won't ski them. And all your little mistakes will be amplified into BIG mistakes.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
I am thinking the RC is more what want. It sounds as thought the SC is demanding like the WC Slaloms I already have.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by dtraub1
Gonzostrike - Do you think you would have liked 165's more or even 170's? I would think longer ones would solve the short turn preference problem and the fore aft balance too.

Doug
perhaps, Doug. I didn't try them in any other length, as I wanted them to behave as I described. if you want them to be more relaxed you really don't want the WC SC, that's what I'd say! no flaw in moving to a different ski that offers what you want.

RX8 might be what you're seeking. maybe even RX6.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
perhaps, Doug. I didn't try them in any other length, as I wanted them to behave as I described. if you want them to be more relaxed you really don't want the WC SC, that's what I'd say! no flaw in moving to a different ski that offers what you want.

RX8 might be what you're seeking. maybe even RX6.
I don't want to be more relaxed. I ski almost every day and want high performance for dodging people on firm snow Saturdays. I just don't want to go over the bars. I was assuming the tips of the WC SC are a little soft and that is what makes them so turny. If they are stiff and the sidecut makes them turny then the SL:11 might be my solution because they have less sidecut and much narrower tips. Did you have the earlier version WC SC with the 122mm tips? This years have 118mm tips and that might help. I heard next years will be different too.

I skied some 155cm iXRC 1100 SW and they were awesome and I never felt like I could over the bars with them. They also have much narrower tips at 110mm.

A famous ex-freestyle champ here went over the bars last year on some short sl skis and screwed up his shoulder. He said he was sooo amazed by the performance of his new SL skis he decided to see how hard he could drive them and over he went.

The first time I felt like I could go over the bars was on my Volkl P40 F1's. They were 188cm but if I drove them hard I felt like I could go over the bars hard and fast. Maybe that taught me some respect for what I consider to be a worst case scenario.

Doug
post #11 of 16
I had the wider tipped, 11m radius '03-'04 model. it's a HUGE error to ski them old style by "driving the tips," as they're not meant for that technique. but tell that to the old body that knows the old technique by heart and is still learning to move more laterally than forward.

if you want stiff, lively, demanding but still turny, RX8 is your gig.
post #12 of 16
Gonzostrike - I skied the Fischer Race SC, which is real similar to the RX8, three years ago and I liked them a lot. They have excellent grip and were the easiest bump skis I have skied. If I wanted a versatile ski I would get them or the RX8 but I want a kick ass ice skate for days when it is too firm for bumps. I have the WC RC and Pocket Rockets and G4's for softer snow. Unfortunately, I can't find any WC SC in Tahoe to demo.

Kestner9 - Sorry to make the thread "About me" and I hope you are getting something out of it.

Doug
post #13 of 16
I happen to own both SC & RC. They are both ultra demanding skis.

The SC: great hyper carver, a little too shaped. I have about 90 days on it & am now just beating the ski to a pulp, amazed at how well it is holding up

The RC: now my masters GS race ski. Needs a lot of hill & energy. Just B/C it is not the 21 m ski does not mean it is easy to ski, tuned like a razor, best edge hold I have ever had.

These are really 2 demanding skis ; look at the RX 8 & 9 for a more freindly version
post #14 of 16
Iriponsonow-How much do you weigh and how long are your RC's and SC's? Are your SC's last years with the 122mm tips? Do you think your RC's have better grip than your SC's? I was hoping and expecting the SC to have better grip than the RC.

Doug
post #15 of 16
I would just like to add my support to Gonzostrike and Iriponsnow concerning SC's. Great great fun as hyper carver !! (I was on the one with 123mm tip) . I wud not use them for free skiing. Stiff and demanding for that. If there is element of skid in your skiing they will not like it.

Regards,
A.S.
post #16 of 16
Isn't hyper-carving a form of free skiing? It certainly isn't racing. Free skiing doesn't mean skidding necessarily now does it?

I live to carve and I carve from the top of the turn to the bottom of the turn. Now I want skis that will do that at slower speeds and on firmer snow than my RC's. I would think the SC would do the job but I am a little concerned about going over the bars. If there are better skis for this without a propensity to through me over the bars, I would like to know about them. Unfortunately I live in Tahoe and there are no SL skis to demo here.

Doug
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