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2005 Nov/Dec ESA on the East Coast?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Will there be ESA on the East coast this year?
post #2 of 20
SQuOTS, I don't know that we can expect an immediate answer as

the announcement for ETU 2004 was made on August 11 of that year:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=18166

I would, however be vastly curious as to the outcome of this discussion (E2):

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=21550

Does your question indicate an interest in a 4-day ETU?
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Yes, I would be interested. I found out too late about the even that was held in 2004 (ETU - I guess it was). I was hoping that they would repeat the event in Nov/Dec 2005. I am especially interested in something like the "video clinic".

Thanks for your help!
post #4 of 20
I'm pretty confident there will be an event on the East Coast early next season. No way in November, but . . . see you in December?
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Definitely. I know of another ski friend of mine who wants to participate as well. I became curious after I saw the announcement for the Jan 2006 event posted. I hope that a Dec 2005 ETU will be in the works.
post #6 of 20
The deal with the December ETU is that we use coaches that are ESA quality. What that means is that a lot of them are clinicians, and examiners for PSIA. PSIA-E does thier big week long clinic in early Decmber, and if we shared the date, we'd lose most of our coaches, therefore, we can't announce the exact date until PSIA-E announces the date for Pro-Jam, but do expect the ETU to be on the first or second week of December.

Also, if there is interest, we'd be more than happy to do a 4 day event later in the year when we have the whole mountain. It was too late to do one this year, but if you guys want it, we can do it.
post #7 of 20
I am interested in the next ETU and a full-length eastern ESA too. Evan.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by epic
Also, if there is interest, we'd be more than happy to do a 4 day event later in the year when we have the whole mountain. It was too late to do one this year, but if you guys want it, we can do it.
Personally, I think that would be a fantastic idea. I think many folks who are not local are hesitant to sign up in advance when the chance for sketchy conditions is pretty high. I'd certainly be more apt to make the 8 hour trip up from the Mid Atlantic when the whole mountain is available. I think you guys would be surprised by the amount of interest you would generate with a later camp.
post #9 of 20
I'd love a 4 day east coast event next year!
post #10 of 20
Why was my post in this thread deleted?

I commented that mid Dec. was too early to hold ETU, and that conditions were too sketchy at that point.

I also said that It's a far better bet to fly 4 hrs. to DEN or SLC for good snow, than to drive 6 hrs. for God knows what in VT most years.
post #11 of 20
I agree with Xdog. When I first saw a thread on a camp in Nov/Dec in the East I was amazed : . They barely have snow in December (ice maybe) and november is out of the question. I lived in New England for 5 1/2 years and we got good snow before january only once.
post #12 of 20
I agree. I would def. go for a 4-day ETU and would also prefer a later date.
Thanks for listening.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by xdog1
Why was my post in this thread deleted?
I don't see any deleted posts. As an admin, I only "soft" delete items. I think AC does the same. Is it possible you clicked on the back button before the post process completed?

I think we need to hold on with the planning until the Committee gets a chance to evaluate the current ESA and ETU information. As much as we want to offer everyone a great learning experience, we have to be practical about it. It cost's quite a bit of money and effort to put one of these events together. Also the host resort needs to be in the loop and buy into the camp. Without their help we would not be able to go into these resorts and "setup camp"

For the coaches, please refrain from making suggestions that sound like commitments that we might not be able to deliver. By all means keep making suggestions and throwing wishes out. For the students that would like to see this happen, please keep making suggestions. If this does come to pass, we will need as much input as we can get to make it the best experience we can offer.

DC
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by dchan
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For the students that would like to see this happen, please keep making suggestions. If this does come to pass, we will need as much input as we can get to make it the best experience we can offer.

DC
Ok. To add a couple of cents to the suggestion cookie jar--as a potential and strongly interested attendee...

1. I prefer coming west as opposed to heading up northeast for the camps.

2. For me personally, a day (perhaps a pre-event day or the day after the event) of demo skis--lots of brands and models--would be great. I'd be willing to fork out some dough to be able to try a bunch of skis. $50 - $100 maybe?

3. I'd like to see something of a "here's our target student profile" and "this is what we teach" or "these are the instructional paths available" sort of info.

4. I think an optional session about backcountry skiing and avalanche safety sessions would be quite fun and informative. I'd be willing to pay extra for that, too.

Now, these are just suggestions. The death of a good fast-food joint (2nd place behind lazy, rude and ill-informed employees) is a wildly expanding menu: You become just average to everyone. And I wouldn't want to see such a program which now enjoys a sterling reputation become bland and mediocre.

That said, the core content and activities of the program should be protected in deference of over-expansion. That's why I suggested a demo day and a backcountry session be scheduled outside the core academy.

It's a super-cool idea (ESA and ETA) and certainly fills an underserved gap in ski training offerings. I hope it continues to be a success. I'm looking forward to being there in '06. I am actively searching for pre-event therapy to help me get ready to meet and deal with gonzo. (I'm Ok, you're Ok; I'm Ok, you're Ok................)

- HT
post #15 of 20
I'm interested in a later in the season eastern event. I am not a skier who takes many lessons ( maybe 3 in 40 years) so 4-days worth sounds like too much for me. Is it possible to attend say the first 2-days of an ESA rather than all 4?
post #16 of 20
Hi Crank, I asked earlier this year about going to only one day of the ETU because of a wedding I had to attend, they never said no, but I don't think they liked the idea.

I will say however that a 4 day session with these incredible coaches would not be too much for you. I ended up doing the 2 day ETU (wedding was called off) and it was too short for me, and I like you, have not had a lot of lessons in my life. Having a great coach who really gets to know you and follows through individually with each student on just what each student needs to know is terrific. I had Tom Burch, and although there were some common things taught, it really was like each of us getting private coaching focusing on what each individual most needed to be working on.
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thank you to the EpicSki staff? for your replies. I realize that Nov/Dec most likely will not have sufficient snow cover for an event at that time. I second that notion that an East Coast event later in the season would generate interest.

Getting out West for me is slightly more cost prohibitive, and think I could benefit more from a clinic learning on the type of conditions that I encounter where I ski.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
and it was too short for me,
Me too.

I also think that an early season grounding is immensely valuable, no matter the conditions. A successful lesson on manky ice snot is more valuable than one on hero snow, because I fully expect to ski the grotty bits until better snow shows.

FRFW exists for the flyboys too.

How many can even think of a 4-day ESA 2 weeks before Christmas? Anywhere? Not I.
post #19 of 20
Keep in mind that ETU stands for Eastern Tune Up. It was intended to be a season starting event to focus on esablishing a solid basis to continue through the year. A 2 day event on a weekend is ideal.

Having said that, I'd be interested in a Eastern event later in the season. Working on basics in limited terrain is fine but for my money I'd rather be eating bark and dining off piste.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by Springhill Crazie
..... dining off piste.
Better than dining piste off.
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