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post #31 of 68
Atomic Metron B5 and the Dynastar Legend 8000.

Probably the B5 edges the 8000 out due to its radical shape, etc. However, I chose the 8000 for myself and do not regret it.

I believe the Metron series will get better and lighter and are the shape of the future for an all mountain ski.

Will demo next years skis this week and will post my opinions on them later in the week.
post #32 of 68
Legend 8000 and Burnin Luv. B5 for the future.
post #33 of 68
In the past, whenever I bought a new pair of skiis, my skiing ability would improve a certain amount( call it X) just because of the advancements of ski design. This year, I bought the Metron B5's and that improvement was easily 3X. In addition, I suddenly could confidently do a variety of things I was never comfortable doing before.
post #34 of 68
If you were "counting clips" (PR terminology for how much press a product generates) I will bet a trip to Chile that the Dynastar Legend series would score highest.

The Metrons would probably come in second, but that's only because they have been advertised so heavily that the editors have little choice but write about them. There's very little separation between church-and-state (meaning advertising and editorial) at most trade publications. They also probably generate some coverage on their own, if for no other reason than the fact that they are so rediculous.

What's most interesting is the absence of articles written about Rossi's Zenith lineup. Like the Legend, the Zenith was a late 04 introduction ... but gosh it's as if the product doesn't exist. If Rossi releases a carver and nobody hears it, does the ski really exist?
post #35 of 68
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Originally Posted by vermont ice
In the past, whenever I bought a new pair of skiis, my skiing ability would improve a certain amount( call it X) just because of the advancements of ski design. This year, I bought the Metron B5's and that improvement was easily 3X. In addition, I suddenly could confidently do a variety of things I was never comfortable doing before.
I'd say that's a good measure of real skier impact.

a bigger impact would be if you always disliked Atomic skis' feel in the past, but now either like their feel, or are willing to put it aside, to reap the benefits of the B5's radical design.

I'm not a fan of Atomic skis' feel, which is why I said this -- I've not been moved to try the Metron mainly because I don't like the Atomic feel.
post #36 of 68
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
If you were "counting clips" (PR terminology for how much press a product generates) I will bet a trip to Chile that the Dynastar Legend series would score highest.
Not to hijack or anything---but hey roto---how the recovery coming along?
post #37 of 68
Hi Skier J,

I'll add another self-important comment about ski popularity just to insulate us against accusations of hijacking the thread. I am doing better. Thanks for asking. I can't wait to get my next X-Ray so I can have a better idea if I can squeeze in an overly cautious April weekend.

As far as the Hottest Skis of 2005 goes, I'd add this: Dynastar probably wins the most-press-attention award because the quality of the product is excellent, and ALSO because the graphics are so hot. I am constantly mocked for the frequency of my design-related posts; however, it's crazy to think that the "coolness" of the Legend lineup has nothing to do with the volume of media coverage.

In fact a friend of mine asked me, "Hey what do you know about those cool retro Dynastars? I love my Screams, but I want to buy the Legends just so I can HAVE them!"

Now, folks, THAT's marketing for ya ...
post #38 of 68
Thread Starter 
Clearly, the Dynastar 8000's and Atomic Metron B:5's are the heavyweights of this "poll".

Both are impressive performers.

Personally, I love the rock-solid feel of Atomics, so I'm a shoe-in for the B:5's.

I'd also lean towards the B:5's because of their innovation. As other bears have noted, the Metron shape appears to have spawned a new breed (see '06 Rossie's).

Only time will tell if this is the beginning of a trend, or a short-lived fad.
post #39 of 68
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Originally Posted by RotoFury
In fact a friend of mine asked me, "Hey what do you know about those cool retro Dynastars? I love my Screams, but I want to buy the Legends just so I can HAVE them!"

Now, folks, THAT's marketing for ya ...
I guess beauty is really in the eye of the beholder! My wife thinks the retro look of my Legend 8000s is terrible. Oh well, I love 'em!
post #40 of 68
It's funny, I think the Dynastars are indeed very pretty skis but they don't strike me as retro in the sense of recalling old ski graphics. I think they're retro in the sense that they look like Hawaiin longboards you'd see on the North Shore if you teleported back to 1963.
post #41 of 68
I'm new to this site & have found it incredibly informative. Thanks for all the insight. I plan to read more and hope to join in with good info in the future.

I'd like to ask how the Metron B5 and Dynastar 8000 flex/perform in the bumps.
post #42 of 68
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
why are so many GAPERS skiing on big Volkls
LOL! I thought that was only a tahoe term.
post #43 of 68

H-e-l-l-o! ! !

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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
I'm not a fan of Atomic skis' feel, which is why I said this -- I've not been moved to try the Metron mainly because I don't like the Atomic feel.
Don't knock it until you've tried it. Really, you're not going to try a ski that people are raving about solely because it says Atomic on the top sheet?

Shame on you!
post #44 of 68
I would vote for the metron line by atomic, not because I'm any expert on the subject of "hot skis" but because they provoke such a fury of debate, contain materials and design features that even atomic says were not possible even a year ago, and they shake up conventional wisdom on how to ski and what the future holds. And to the person who said they "weren't moved to try them" ... I don't think one can generalize about a particular manufacturer's "feel" in such an innovative design. I never liked how Audi's drove until I bought a TT which is totally different in approach and design to my wife's A6. I've only had my Metron XI's for a few days but I'm completely glad I bought them and yes they will challenge me but I know I'm skiing on "new territory" and that requires a bit more work for the rewards that follow.
post #45 of 68
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Originally Posted by skidad55
I would vote for the metron line by atomic, not because
I agree with this for sure. The Legend is an evolutionary ski..the Metrons are REVOLUTIONARY.
post #46 of 68
Ok Here it is drum roll please, ladies and gentalmen skiers of all ages After long debate and many ballets cast the judges can only pick one ski. Yes just one out of the many find quality skis out there. I will tell you this the voteing was close. This is the moment we have all been waiting for.
May I have the envelope please........ The winner of Western ski of the year Is.............. The legand 8000 by Dynastar !!!!!! Yes the Orange retro looking ski not only looks cool It is cool. Like Jack Nicholsen, It's more then how it looks also has the stuff to back it up. Yes The ledgend 8000 gives you an academy award proformance each and every run. It will make you laugh and make you cry, You will be moved and your skiing life will never be the same.
post #47 of 68
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
BM, I know that the huge fatties are very prevalent. the question is, why are so many GAPERS skiing on big Volkls with performance at least 250% greater than their users ever will have?
I think it must have something to do with the cost; they are a status symbol like a top of the line porsche or BMW. If it were just burliness they would be on 10 year old race skis that they could pick up for $10. at a yard sale.
post #48 of 68
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I agree with this for sure. The Legend is an evolutionary ski..the Metrons are REVOLUTIONARY.
Well, the argument could be said that evolution superceeds revolution. Revolutions don't always work. Evolution is survival of the fittest.
post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by head_wall
Well, the argument could be said that evolution superceeds revolution. Revolutions don't always work. Evolution is survival of the fittest.
Well, between the Metron and the Legend....both skis have a huge following that this arguement will never be solved. Both are great skis and the mountain is big enough for both of them.
post #50 of 68
The hottest ski of the year? Its a toss up netween the B5 and the 8000.
The most Significant: The metron line, notably the B5

This is coming from someone who loved his 8000's and wasn't as big a fan of the B5's as others on here. Even I can see that the Metron line is the most significant ski because of the changes it produced in a mass market. (not discounting Reini).

I think that Dynastar hit the nail square on the head and produced a truly great ski with the 8000's. It will go down in the history books, but the revolution by Atomic is more SIGNIFICANT. The Metron line is todays K2-Four. Its true that the metrons aren't going to be THE design everyone sticks to, but they have already changed how ski manufactures approach skis. Without the K2 Fours, we wouldn't have the skis we have today. In 8-10 years we might be saying the say thing about the Metrons.
post #51 of 68
Around here people seem to be liking the Rossi 9S Oversize. I see a ton of them.
post #52 of 68
Metron is the name I heard mentioned most often, by a huge margin.
post #53 of 68
Dynastar Legend Pro Rider, Rossignol Bandit B-Squad 91/98, Volkl Mantra

(mixing 04/05 and 05/06 clearly hehe).
post #54 of 68
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Originally Posted by D(C)
Around here people seem to be liking the Rossi 9S Oversize. I see a ton of them.
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Originally Posted by Gramboh
Dynastar Legend Pro Rider, Rossignol Bandit B-Squad 91/98, Volkl Mantra
What did these skis do? nothing spectacular, they didn't accomlish anything. They might be good skis (okay, they're all great skis) but so are a ton of other skis out there. What about Volkl Karmas for back country kickers? What about k2 Public Enemy for fusing park and all mountain?

I don't think they're the best ski, but the Metrons are the most significant, still.
post #55 of 68
I think people are mixing up "hottest" with "most significant". Being in branding and PR, buzz creation makes things hot, but can't make something significant. Significant comes from true innovation which often takes time for the world to catch on to.


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Originally Posted by Captain_Strato
THE most significant new ski model to have hit the slopes in 2005?
post #56 of 68
i hear everyone talk about the metron b5, but how does the other metron compare?
im looking at the m:8 coz i dont believe im at the level to ski the b5. hows that ski compared to others in its catogary? thanks!
post #57 of 68
Best? I don't really know.

Most suprising? 190 Gotamas. Fattest and equal longest I've ever been on and fantastic. They could even hold an edge on piste - but you had to plot your course with a map before letting them run!

Next skis I'll get for sure...until I ski Big Daddys.

PS Not a fan of the Metron idea. I just don't like the tiny radius... flame away, but one skis for doing slalom on piste and one for the pow I reckon.
post #58 of 68
I would have to go with the Metron line also. It seems like everyone and their grandmother are now on some Metron model. OK, that is an exageration, but the Metron line has certainly revolutionized skiing, in that it managed to convince so many experts that a 162cm ski can really be an all mountain ski.
post #59 of 68
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Originally Posted by Atomic_918
Don't knock it until you've tried it. Really, you're not going to try a ski that people are raving about solely because it says Atomic on the top sheet?

Shame on you!
He'll try 'em, believe me. Next ESA if not before--'cause I'll put him on mine!
post #60 of 68
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Originally Posted by Brit
PS Not a fan of the Metron idea. I just don't like the tiny radius... flame away, but one skis for doing slalom on piste and one for the pow I reckon.
Don't knock it until you've been on 'em. I have been very surprised by their versatility. I'd still recommend a monster fat for real powder (2 feet and up), but for typical Colorado snows, the Metron is plenty.
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