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post #121 of 130
I have been wondering about this for a long time now and I am really looking forward to some of the responses from everyone on this one.

As much as I do want a skinny SL ski to add to my collection I have to wonder does it not make it just to easy? Does it not just take all the challenge right out of it? Would I not just become another taking the easy road instead of actually becoming technically good at it?

With the introduction of SL skis, skiing gates has been made so easy that even strong intermediates can now rip it pretty well on most gates.

Until just recently I considered myself to be a very strong skier on hardpack to light powder say up to 10 CM. It is only the last three years after much effort and time spent trying to become proficient at skiing true gates that I have become rather good at it. To me and I'm sure lots of others it is the joy, fullfillment and pride of becoming good at it and not just buying a ski that does all the work for you.

With the new "SL Ski" craze it seems as if the domain of gates done proper or strongly from abilty and technique is now open to most people that can make it down a blue run well. I would have to think that in time we will see the truly good skiers leaving the "SL Skis" at home on all but the most holy of race days. Why? because SL skis just are too easy.

Agreed skinny skis have their place. Ie groomers, rope tows, in bounds extreme on piste, nutball crazy stupid fast bump jaunts etc...

I think that to be able to ski gates well on skis that can just as proficiently do powder or crud says more about ones ability than to slap a pair of skinny skis on and ski gates well but have to sacrifice on everything else.

A good skier will rip the groomed regardless of what brand or size ski is under him or her.

Are SL skis just really an easy way to be better at one aspect of skiing rather than actually being good at it regardless of the ski used.

Are skinny skis not just another marketing hype concept to get people to buy new skis?

I'm not saying that using SL skis is bad (hell use those stupid shaped skinny skis for all I care) but in time do you think that skinny skis will go back to what they are supposed to be for? The mother load groomed day or a specialized tool.
post #122 of 130
Wannabe,



Brilliant!!
post #123 of 130
10 years ago, we could have been having the same debate over carver skis. Once everyone has a good set of fatties, they will look for a different type ski maybe a bump ski. Once fattie skis sale level off, the ski companies will start promoting a different type of ski.

Once or twice a year, I break out the 64mm race carvers and have some much fun. I forget how much performance they have in them. Same with the Fatties, with 16 inches of freshie, they are a ball. Still 80% of the time, I am on mid-fats. Bottom line, skis are tools and each tool has its place. Once a new type of tool comes out we all want it in our tool box.
post #124 of 130
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Originally Posted by Wannabe View Post
...A good skier will rip the groomed regardless of what brand or size ski is under him or her.

Are SL skis just really an easy way to be better at one aspect of skiing rather than actually being good at it regardless of the ski used.

Are skinny skis not just another marketing hype concept to get people to buy new skis?

I'm not saying that using SL skis is bad (hell use those stupid shaped skinny skis for all I care) but in time do you think that skinny skis will go back to what they are supposed to be for? The mother load groomed day or a specialized tool.
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Wannabe,



Brilliant!!

+1
post #125 of 130
this is now my favorite thread
LONG LIVE FAT SKIS!!!!!



post #126 of 130

Restating the obvious

Great question in 05, but a moot question for late 08. Of course they are not going to (didn't) die off, just like metal edges didn't die off. They are both useful. (Some might question the usefullness of metal edges on a dedicated powder ski)

Fat is great where there is ungroomed snow and gnarley lines. That is why skis over 100 mm waist are hard to find in Minnesota. No lines = no need. Of course, the popularity of "extreme" skiing helped the trend to more skiers wanting to go off piste and this created a market that the ski companies exploited and even pushed.

We now even have different itterations (is that the word?) on fat skis. From short and fat with extreme sidecuts to reverse camber (rocker) and reverse sidecut.

The question as posed by rockdude is: what is the next revolution/evolution in ski technology? Or have reached the top in ski development.

Please --- don't even think m******!
post #127 of 130
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The question as posed by rockdude is: what is the next revolution/evolution in ski technology? Or have reached the top in ski development.

Please --- don't even think m******!

We're kicking around the idea of fat bindings and fat boot soles to match the fat skis.

Here's a thought, bring back the grooves in the bases
post #128 of 130
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We're kicking around the idea of fat bindings and fat boot soles to match the fat skis.
I hear you. I am already growing wider feet to match the wider skis.
post #129 of 130
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Originally Posted by Marmot mb View Post
As much as I do want a fat ski to add to my collection I have to wonder does it not make it just to easy? Does it not just take all the challenge right out of it? Would I not just become another taking the easy road instead of actually becoming technically good at it?
You could say the same thing about straight skis and parabolic skis....and there's no way in hell I'd want to go back to straight skis . I say bring on the new ideas and technologies. If not, maybe we'd still be skiing on 220 cm wooden skis with no metal eges and laced up shoes, lol.
post #130 of 130
Marker's already there with the fat bindings. Some people seem to think it makes a difference.
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