or Connect
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Love/Hate Killington

post #1 of 94
Thread Starter 
I have been to K twice early season and never really liked it there.

I always told myself I would take a weekday and go ski there since people talk about how much better it is then other resorts in NE and how hard the terrain is.

I went there yesterday with my wife to give it a shot.

I have a few issues with K after skiing there.

1. Their grooming is horrendous compared to SR, Okemo, and other mountains that have awesome grooming.
2. They only run some of the lifts on weekdays. Normally I would understand this as they try to save money and they aren't packed but K is so hard to get around on that it is a nuisance for K newbies like me
3. They said that they got 20" of snow last week. I highly doubt that as I skied on more rocks and ice then any other mountain this weekend.
4. Their "expert" terrain is fun but short. Runs like Ovation are steep but they go by really quickly. Also runs like Double Dipper should be a single black and not a double.
5. Who the hell designed this layout for the runs? Everytime you get in a groove you need to slow down or stop because of a green crosscut. Superstar was a fun long run though.

I know people either love or hate Killinton and I don't think I will go back there.

I guess that makes K lovers happy as it is one less M******* and personally the more people that stay away from Sunday River, Sugarloaf, Sugabush, and others, the better for me.

What do you guys love/hate about it?
post #2 of 94
too crowded/shitty conditions...2 things I don't like. VT is over a 8hour drive for me so it's more worth it for me to go out west...
post #3 of 94
I grew up about 45 minutes from all of the good southern VT mountains, therefore I spent most of my time there. However, I made more than a few trips up to Killington with mixed results. I never really had a good time there, with the exception of one weekday when it dumped 14 inches while we were there. That would be a good day on any mountain...

There is nothing wrong with Killington, I just don't think it lives up to the hype. In my opinion there are far better mountains in VT. In southern VT, I love Okemo for cruising around and also think Bromley is a great time. Up north you can't beat Sugerbush, I love that place. There is such a wide variety of terrain for experts looking to do all sorts of skiing.

It seems as though many people go to Killington because they think it is the biggest and the best, but there are better mountains out there.
post #4 of 94
Thread Starter 
It's amazing how many people I spoke to on the Gondola that go to K every year but they have never tried any other mountains.

I told a few people about my favorate mountains and more then a few asked me, "Do they have a gondola?"

Personally I hate gondolas so that is not a decision on what mountain I ski at.
post #5 of 94
Does Killington groom the one side of Outer Limits on a regular basis?
post #6 of 94
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roundturns
Does Killington groom the one side of Outer Limits on a regular basis?
I didn't make it over to Bear yesterday but I don't think it is normal for them to do that. I spoke to a few people who skied only on the groomed side.

I think K groomed alot of doubles that they normally wouldn't because of the ice and lack of snow.
post #7 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalce
...
5. Who the hell designed this layout for the runs? Everytime you get in a groove you need to slow down or stop because of a green crosscut. Superstar was a fun long run though.
Someone trying to up the run count at all costs. And it's obviously not just a problem for experts. My strictly green-circle noobie wife was practically a moving target on some of the famous Killington green cruises such as Great Eastern. No one's having fun in those situations, neither expert or wedging beginner.

The place is a disaster. No love mixed in here. Will never go back until they plant some trees and shut down a few runs. Give me Belleayre or Gore any day of the week.
post #8 of 94
We stay away from K until the spring. Superstar is alot of fun in the spring. We were thare over 4 days last April and it was a great time. No crowds and all the bumps your knees can handle. I think I have skied Killington once during regular season in the past 10 years.
post #9 of 94
I guess that answers my question in the email I sent you. Just want all who read this to know what a wonderful couple you two are. I/we had a great time with you and xrisi421 on Sunday.

I have had some great day's at Killington. I have had a couple of bad day's there. I do pick the day's there very carefully. The place can be intimidating if you not used to it or try to do it all in one day. I have skied there enough to know my way around, some what. I'm also lucky enough to have friends that work there. So when I can hang with them the place can be awesome. Please remember this is a light snow year. Don't be to hard on them, there only trying to make a buck.
post #10 of 94
Scalce, now I know why I liked you and xrisisi immediately without even meeting you. There are many things wrong with Killington, but the worst has to do with the absolute rudeness of the people who frequent it. The staff does not help. Mark gor hit by a an out of control snowboarder. An instructor, a patroller and a mountain ambassador skied right by without saying anything. When Mark complained, they told him it was part of the "Killington experience."

IMHO, there are two types of skiers, Sugarloafers and K-Marters. While i now live in Colorado, I will always be a Sugarloafer in my attitude towards skiing.
post #11 of 94
I like their variety of expert terrain but must admit their mountain layout leaves much to be desired. Last time I skied there we went down to bear and they closed the sky peak chair, meaning you had to take the outerlimits chair and traverse to get out, far to many traverses on that mountain...

Alfonse
post #12 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisamarie
IMHO, there are two types of skiers, Sugarloafers and K-Marters. While i now live in Colorado, I will always be a Sugarloafer in my attitude towards skiing.
I wonder how all the other mountains would sort into that????

Kmarters
Stratton
Mt. Snow
Okemo

Sugarloafers
Sugarbush
MRG
Stowe
post #13 of 94
I stopped skiing there 20 years ago for many of the reasons mentioned above, but went back with the family last year in March. It was Canadian Spring Break, most of the places we would have preferred to go were booked solid, and it was one of the few places running a teen program midweek.

No doubt about it, we had a great time - good accomodations, it snowed several days that week, and it wasn't particularly crowded, but somehow I'm not itching to go back anytime soon. The terrain is great, but it's still a pain to get around, and although the customer service seems greatly improved under American Skiing, in my opinion, some of the help projects a less than positive attitude towards guests.
post #14 of 94
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I guess that answers my question in the email I sent you. Just want all who read this to know what a wonderful couple you two are. I/we had a great time with you and xrisi421 on Sunday.
Thanks

We had a great time and would love to go back sometime.

You really hooked us up and we totally appreciate it.

K just seemed crappy compared to the conditions at Okemo on Sunday.
post #15 of 94
Can't resist jumping in here. I don't want to be labeled the defender of Killington, but I love Killington. Maybe that's too strong a word, but I've skied about 16 places in the Northeast from Gore to Sugarloaf, and Killington is my favorite big place. Wildcat is my favorite not-quite-as-biggie in the northeast. I'm an aging bump skier who now is mostly into family cruising. Kmart can provide one-stop shopping for all skill levels and can make snow with the best of 'em. My days of repeat runs down Outer Limits are over. I am not a Vermont local and admittedly have made just 8 sporadic visits of one to three days each to Killington over a span of 30 years. Maybe absence has something to do with my fondness.
One of my favorite memories was skiing there during the 1980 Olympics and watching Olympic women train on Wildfire, a sweet advanced groomer. Believe that was also the first year for Bear Mtn. More recently, couple years ago, I was there for a windy, crowded Pres weekend, not so fun, but grew some hair on my chest. But in '99 my family and I had one of our all time great ski vacations the weekend after Pres weekend. Late Feb would be my recommendation for the best time at Killington, lesser crowds and still good snow.
I have no problem navigating Killington and, in fact, very much enjoy exploring the expansive terrain with my intermediate level kids. Sort of like dad taking them for a hike in the mtns. I like accessing the area from the uncrowded base of the Skyeship gondola and avoid the original base area over by K-1 on busy days. No doubt, my kids (and I) love riding a heated gondola on a cold Vermont day.
A savvy touron like myself can have a blast at Killington. There are quiet places even on the busiest days. The place is intermediate heaven on an uncrowded day, yet can provide enough challenge to wear out the likes of Donna Weinbrecht.
Sorry for the verbosity.
post #16 of 94
Killington is the souless, generic mall of skiing. Everything is there, but none of it is very noteworthy. Like a shoping mall, I've alway found it a comfortless place. I've skied there off and on for decades at every time of year and in every snow and weather condition. Even on a mid-week day with a group of good skiers, perfect snow and no crowds, I found it a largely unsatisfying experience. My only memorable day at Killington was skiing in mid-May. We were loading the old Killington chair at mid-station and riding the old glades poma. In the days before snowmaking, you got to ski real corn snow in VT.
post #17 of 94
Like most ski trips a lot goes into making it memeriable. Last year I was there during the PSIA III exam, a friend was taking it. I had a great morning and after lunch meet a guy on the chair that showed me some of the trees there. That was a great day. About four years ago I was there a met a young women who had one of the life time passes, she came through the race program there. She said I could follow her around for the day, that was another great day. I have skied with my now level III friend that works there a number of times. Hairybones and I as well as other race team parents have had great times there while the kids were racing. I try to get there a few times a year now. It's all about "timing".

I think one of the things that make it fun for me now is I'm a much better skier then I was back in the early 90'ts. I can ski trails like Vertigo and Ovation with confidence and don't have to worry about making the wrong choice or getting lost and ending up where I shouldn't be.

I will also say, that I haven't been there yet this year, I waiting for more snow.
post #18 of 94
I take Killington for what it is. To ski Kton, ski one section at a time either that or you will be spending half of your time trying to get from one spot to the other.

Max, you gonna be around Thursday at Okemo?
post #19 of 94
if you don't like killington, you just simply don't know the right places to go. It's simply too huge and too crowded on the weekends if you don't know your way around. I like sugarbush a lot, I also greatly enjoy Sugarloaf, but K is closer and has everything the others have... If you know where to look. If you like groomers, K sucks hard, as there are too many people out there to let it loose. The trees are awesome though, and almost as good as the loaf in my opinion.
post #20 of 94
I had such a bad experience the last time i was at Killington I swore I'd never go back, and I won't. Not for free lift ticks. It wasn't so much the mountain layout or the trail system, it's the whole atmosphere. The people who skied there were unfriendly and rude, the people who worked there were rude and unfriendly. Our room was broken into and all our Camera equipment was stolen. And, when I reported it to security and the police, they acted like it was no big deal. It wasn't even investigated. In other words, tuff luck tourist.

I'm sorry but I'll take my tourist dollars to Colorado, Utah and points West where I've only felt welcome and secure. And, the skiing is a whole lot better.
post #21 of 94
All I know is...Its better than Blue.
post #22 of 94
I have had mostly good experiences at Killington. It was mainly due to the snowmaking there. KMart was usually able to provide reliable Thanksgiving weekend skiing. There is more lodging available than any other resort in New England. I was lucky to be there for the New Year's Blizzard of 01-02 and had three days of fantastic skiing. The spring skiing there is longer than most others and I took advantage of that a few times.

Killington has its topography drawbacks but, the installation of the K1 and the other Quads solved most of the old problems at Killington for me. I certainly don't hate it. I certainly don't love it either.
post #23 of 94
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericfelker
There is more lodging available than any other resort in New England.
And that's a good thing?

I ski at Sunday River which is more spread out then Killington but it is way easier to get around.

I do like that K has steep bump runs that scare people.
post #24 of 94
Max, you gonna be around Thursday at Okemo?[/quote]

I'll see you at the A/B quad about 9AM Thursday the 10th. You know how to find me.
post #25 of 94
Skied Killington since 1964. I go there early and late season and maybe one other time. My choice is always MRG. But Killington is only an hour and a half away. Still I choose Bromley or Magic over Killington. I find just driving the access road to be troubling. Looks like Long Island - they need zoning or something. It's disgraceful!

Phill talked about spending the day traveling around the mt. That is true. Bear is fun, but I can't do the whole day in bumps.

I lost my son when he was 8 on vertigo. It was dumpin snow and 3:30. He skied out at 5:45, dark! He was pretty good with maps, but at one point he was at the bottom of the gondola rt 4.

It would be better if I knew where to find woods shots. Guess you need to spend time there to know where to go.
post #26 of 94
Killington does have good trees I will agree on that, but MRG's glades are far superior. Last year after skiing mrg repeatedly we caught a cherry powder weekday at Ktown. We absolutely tore through Julio, toilet bowl, big dipper and whatever else that mountain had to offer. I think the glades are nice at K, but the lines are much better and tougher at mrg.

Alfonse
post #27 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I take Killington for what it is. To ski Kton, ski one section at a time either that or you will be spending half of your time trying to get from one spot to the other.
I love me some Kmart. Go downhill, not cross it. It's a lot of hill to be crossing all day because you don't know where to go. It's possible to work your way around the complex by going downhill from the top of one lift to the bottom of the next and you stay on good trails avoiding traverses. Requires some map work and planning a couple runs ahead. I love the size and complexity of it. No matter what kind of run you like, they have about 100 of your favorite kind, I like that.

My favorites were Roustabout and Upper Catwalk. There's a ton of soul there... "don't tell me this town ain't got no heart, you just gotta poke around... Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart, when I can hear it beat out loud!" -Shakedown Street, Grateful Dead
post #28 of 94
all this talk makes me want to go there
post #29 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by paul jones
Looks like Long Island - they need zoning or something. It's disgraceful!
...?
post #30 of 94

whtmt

I have only skied Killington a few times in all of my 30+ years of living in Central NH and I can't say I remember any of them being a really good time.

On the other hand I can tell you that if you want a big eastern mountain experience with great small town hospitality, go to Sunday River in Bethel Maine. There are few places that you can always be assured of a great time. It's 5-Miles across and looks back over to the Whites here in New Hampshire. It's got everything from wide green groomers for the kids and newbies to the wild and wooly steeps of White Heat or my favorite, Shockwave. Shockwave is like an old New England trail with a dog-leg right and then left and it's steep and bumped up usually. Sunday River will challenge you as far as you can go---it's up to you.

I did a PSIA advanced bumps clinic for two of the most challenging and fun filled days last February that I have ever had. Troy Walsh, an Eastern Demo Team member took us through the treed bump runs, closed lift lines like Ruby and of course, Shockwave!!! He & Sunday River were both awesome.

So bag Killington for a quality experience. Come to Sunday River Maine. I also agree with some of the other posts complimenting both Okemo and Bromley. They're both great areas and really cater to guests.

whtmt & Mackenzie 911
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Resorts, Conditions & Travel