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post #1 of 18
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Do you have your bindings mounted forward at all? I have read on other sites, mainly k2 message board and freeride sites, that the bindings should be mounted forward at least 2cm. Some suggest higher, but it seems that they put a big emphasis on skiing backwards. I have purchased public enemys for all mountain and a little bit of jumping, don't plan on skiing backwards much (unless I buy mirrors). I'm thinking about mounting forward 2cm but want to make sure that makes sense. If it matters, I'm using look P12 lifters.
Thanks
post #2 of 18
I have PE with Rossi 914ti mounted 1"(2.52 cm) forward. I think it is great set up. I'm like 25% park + 75% all mountain.
post #3 of 18
I mounted my twins with Tyrolia Railflex. With the turn of 1 screw, I decide if I want to be on the mfr.'s mark, 1.5 cm forward, or 1.5 cm back.

I also share 1 binding between 4 pairs of skis. Makes for lighter travel.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by xdog1
I mounted my twins with Tyrolia Railflex. With the turn of 1 screw, I decide if I want to be on the mfr.'s mark, 1.5 cm forward, or 1.5 cm back.

I also share 1 binding between 4 pairs of skis. Makes for lighter travel.
Good suggestion dawg. That's the route I took with my 8000's and I couldn't be more happier with my decision.
post #5 of 18
My PE's are mounted +3cm and they ski great. I do ski switch a bit and do spend time in the park/pipe, but at +3 they are a phenomenal all mountain ski still. Honestly you cannot go wrong mounting the +2/+3, just remember that when you ski them you need to be a little more forward (CM) to make em work right.
post #6 of 18
Ditto on the +3...I ride (and land) switch a lot. Additionally, my overwhelmingly positive all-mtn. attitude regarding the ski is based on that +3 mounting position. Not sure that it matters if you don't want to ride park with them...
post #7 of 18
On the PE the 'sole center' is the best for all mountain. the most popular is the +3 mounting. +7 is the absolute center of the ski. i have heard the +1.5 is a good comprimise for all mountain, and the park.

I put Rossi scratches on my PE, and they are sweet. they are mounted at sole center because i forgot to ask, and when i buy boots next year they will probably be bigger then my rental boots, and i didn't want to mess up the strength of the ski by having two holes in really close to each other.
post #8 of 18
Mounted mine at +1 cm: more concerned w/ ripping down the mtn than spinning or switch, ski works great!!
post #9 of 18
my son wants to get the public enemys he is 14 and is 5'4 1/2 and weighs around 145 he is a advance intermediate sking just begining blacks but a true blue skier any ideas we ski in the east mostly hunter or killington. we ski alot was up at killington this weekend and will go up there feb for 4 days of sking
post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by iriponsnow
Mounted mine at +1 cm: more concerned w/ ripping down the mtn than spinning or switch, ski works great!!
My son's are mounted in this position and they seem to work great for him as well.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by ski mom
my son wants to get the public enemys he is 14 and is 5'4 1/2 and weighs around 145 he is a advance intermediate sking just begining blacks but a true blue skier any ideas we ski in the east mostly hunter or killington. we ski alot was up at killington this weekend and will go up there feb for 4 days of sking
ski mom

Welcome to EpicSki!! I'm not surprised that your son wants the PE, it's a popular ski with the younger crowd. My guess is, however, that he'll have his hands full with this ski as it's pretty stiff for a twin tip, and the shortest size it comes in is 159cm.

For reference purposes, my son is 12 and is almost 5'9", 180 lbs and is a strong aggressive skier. He got the 159cm, after demoing both the 159cm and the 169cm.
post #12 of 18
do you have any other sugestions for double tip ski?
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by ski mom
do you have any other sugestions for double tip ski?
Many of my son's friends ski the Dynastar Troublemaker which is a little softer than the PE. It starts out with a 155cm and goes up from there. It has a pretty cool graphic so your son would probably like it as well.
post #14 of 18
My wife is on the PE in a 159 mounted at boot sole center (0 mark). She doesn't ride the park though. It works well for all mtn in this position.
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by ski mom
do you have any other sugestions for double tip ski?
The only reason I think this question is difficult to answer is because most twin-tips are park oriented design, where as the PE was designed as an all-mountain that could go into the park. Now in terms of other skis to consider:

Salomon 1080
Elan M2 (I think, I heard some really good things about its all mountain ability)
Line Chronic
Troublemaker (as previously mentioned)
Atomic Tweak (or if you can get them the new Triplet is an interesting idea)
The whole Volkl line is rated really highly (but on the stiff side)

For all-mountain ability, the PE, the Tweak and Volkl's replacement for the V-pro would prob top my list. The Elan is supposed to be great and was supposedly designed to be an all-mountain ski that can go in the park, but I haven't skied it yet, so I'm only going on what I've heard/read. As far as the Troublemaker, its known as a great park/pipe ski, and supposedly very good in the bumps, but I have heard many complaints about its all-mountain cruising (and their edges are notorious for excessive wear and damage if they touch rails). Line was trying to push farther into the market and was pretty much attempting to establish the Chronic as one of the best twin-tips, and if the ski ski's half as well as I've heard, it will be a phenomenal ski. 1080, personally, I'm just not a fan, however Scalce, or others on here will be able to gice you a less biased opion than I will, and I know they really like the ski.

Honestly though, I don't think you can really go wrong so long as you look at the twin-tip's that are designed for all mountain. Don't be tempted to get something too wide underfoot (Pistol - which is good all-mountain, but you gotta work, Gotama, Maden, etc, pretty much anything bigger than 85 under foot), and stay away from park only twin-tips (if you want all mountain performance - the park specific skis will be great in the park, but typically mediocre at best outside it).
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Manus
1080, personally, I'm just not a fan, however Scalce, or others on here will be able to gice you a less biased opion than I will, and I know they really like the ski.
I really like the PE but I think it may be too stiff for someone under 150 pounds who is still learning to carve especially if he wants to hit jumps and mess around. For cruising it would be good but he might find it too much ski in bumps and uneven conditions.

I like the 1080s but only on non icey days when I can hit bumps and mess around. It has a speed limit on ungroomed runs but your son may not hit those speeds. If you tune them to have a 1 and 3 they do well on groomed runs as long as you finesse the ski into a turn and not just skid and pivot.

Why not check out the K2 Fujative for him? It is softer and cheaper then the PE but supposedly still a great ski.
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by Scalce
Why not check out the K2 Fujative for him? It is softer and cheaper then the PE but supposedly still a great ski.
The Fujative was designed to be pretty much a park only ski. The unique flex pattern favor's park skiing as does the sidecut and takes away from its all-mountain handling. However, the wider shovel and tail have supposedly allowed it to be a very solid ski in softer snow. I would think the Fujative would be an alright all-mountain ski for a skier who is more skidding than carving their turns. Also, I believe the base is an extruded P-Tex, making it much more durable, but less quick and not as happy accepting wax.

However, you might want to look into what sizes are available in the Juvenile (the kids version of the PE) or the Mini-Enemy (if you looks at the previous years productions. A kids ski, while it may not hold up as well, should have softer flex pattern and should be a bit cheaper.
post #18 of 18
it can nolonger use a jr ski because of his whight i think you need to be under 120 pound and my son is about 145-150 and getting taller
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