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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Yup. I'm 51 years old, 5'10" and weigh 220 lbs. I used (more than 15 years ago) to ski a lot, and at the time considered myself an advanced intermediate. This year is the first time I have skied in several years and the last time up, I demoed some 168cm Volkl 5*s. Christ on a cracker! I think I like skiing again!! I loved the skis!! Now, I want to buy some shaped skis - should I just buy some of these or what?? Please offer any suggestions that may come to mind (except stay off the slopes!).

Not too suprisingly, essentially all of my skiing will be on groomed slopes at moderate speeds. Nothing fancy, but I do want some skis that will help me learn and improve at this new way to ski.

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 24
Demo..DEMO..Demo... and Demo.

If you are in CA, I assume you are getting into some softer and mixed snow conditions. With that, I would suggest a wider ski like a Metron series from Atomic. That will give you the shape of the 5* but more floatation in the softer/deeper snow.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Uhhh - did you say DEMO????

Hey - what length would you suggest?? I mean, in the old days, I skied on a 180 - 185... Is a 165 - 170 about right for these new skis?

Thanks for your help.
post #4 of 24
Deedar,

I am 62 and 5' 10" and weigh 180. I have a pair of the Volkl 4 Stars in 168 and they are fantastic cruisers with a short turn capability when pushed, or long sweepers when just ridden slightly on edge. My favorite is the Fischer Worldcup SC in 155 for just playing around going fast or turning really short. Both of those skis love the new crossunder technique and will run straight to get across the flat to the lift. I have another pair of Dynastar 4X4 in 178 which are speed demons of the first order. They are my crud skis, nothing seems to deflect them and they do nice smooth round turns of medium radius when put up on edge.

I agree with the rest here Demo as many skis as you can, read and ask here regularly. You might enjoy Peter Keelty's site for reviews. I find that those reviews match my experience with the skis I own as well as those I have demoed.

These new skis are just too dogone much fun. I wind up with a grin from ear to ear every run.
post #5 of 24
deedar, welcome to EpicSki! Do try the Metron:10s and M:9s in the 162 range. Also, if you liked the 5*, see if you can find a Fischer RX6.
post #6 of 24
Howdy Neighbor. You are right up the road and we both can remember Eisenhower. Maybe we can ski together sometime at Sierra or Heavenly. You skied and liked the 5 star in 168 cm. Go for it. It is a ski that will let you enjoy your day, or progress to the next level as you choose. I have also skied the 5 star in a 168 but ended up buying 6 star. Not that much difference, but the 5 is nicer in the bumps and a bit more forgiving. Perfect. Stay with that length because it works for most people. You can torture yourself over what ski, and what length till the snow melts, but you are fortunate enough to know what you like already.

Besides, its not the size of your tool, its what you do with it. Enjoy. (oops, maybe that comment belonged in the General Ski Discussion thread: ) PM me when you're ready to head up the hill, and welcome to Epic.

Tom
post #7 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by deedar
I demoed some 168cm Volkl 5*s. Christ on a cracker! I think I like skiing again!! I loved the skis!! Now, I want to buy some shaped skis - should I just buy some of these or what??
sounds like a match
post #8 of 24
Deedar

The five* is a fantastic ski. It is forgiving yet it performs. Great first pick!
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. These fora are great! Before I purchase the 5*s, I am going to demo some Atomics (probably M:9) and perhaps some Fischer RX6s, if I can. The 5*s are real sweet, though, I think that I can find a demo pair for sale near the end of the season for around $300. The Metrons look pretty intersting too.

Cirquerider, I'll be in touch.

Thanks again!
post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 
I am fascinated by the Metrons. Would I be completely crazy to bu some Metron M:9s w/o bindings for $369 - without ever skiing on a Metron????
(I can't seem to find any to demo)
post #11 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by deedar
I demoed some 168cm Volkl 5*s.
There is a pair of 168cm Volkl 5*s for sale here:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=23846

If their condition is good, you could pick up a great pair of skis at a very reasonable price.
post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
deedar, welcome to EpicSki! Do try the Metron:10s and M:9s in the 162 range. Also, if you liked the 5*, see if you can find a Fischer RX6.
ssh (or anyone else) -

You think 164 M:9s would be right? Remember my stats: 51 years old, 5'10" and weigh 220 lbs - level 6/7 skier. Comments anyone???

Should I get the 171s???
post #13 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by deedar
ssh (or anyone else) -

You think 164 M:9s would be right? Remember my stats: 51 years old, 5'10" and weigh 220 lbs - level 6/7 skier. Comments anyone???

Should I get the 171s???
I think likely the 171s. What turn shape and speed do you prefer?
post #14 of 24
Thread Starter 
I should also tell you that this is the first year that I have skied in over 10 years, so I am really "re-learning." I have skied on Volkl 5* and really liked them, but I want something with a little fatter waist (hey - just like mine! ) for better afternoon crud skiing.

That said, I like short, quick turns at very moderate speeds. Nuthin too fast for me anymore!
post #15 of 24
According to the Atomic sizing chart, you fall right between the two sizes. If you prefer manuverability over stability, go with the shorter. If you prefer stability over manuverability, go with the longer. You'll really like 'em.
post #16 of 24
Thread Starter 
ssh-

Thanks again for the advice and your quick response - I'm kinda leaning towards the 164s, but really, does 7 cm make THAT much difference??

(BTW - I'm stoked, I'm sure that I will love 'em no matter which ones I get!!!)
post #17 of 24
It makes some difference. The shorter ones are easier to "throw around" if you need to (hence "maneuverability"). The longer ones will be more stable at higher speeds (I'd say 40mph plus). Only you can determine your preference. I would recommend going with the shorter one given what you've said.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
I think that you are right - 164s for me. Thanks for all the advice. These fora are great!!!
post #19 of 24
Thread Starter 
I can pick these up for $425. Comments? Can you tell which Neox bindings these are?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7135423215
post #20 of 24
I bought mine at a brick and mortor shop. It worked out well for me since I ended up using the "Metron Challenge", I bought the 162's and they were too short for me and I returned them and got the 172's. If I had bought them on Ebay, I am not sure if I would have been able to do that. I paid a few extra bucks, but I "bought" some flexiblity.

For your weight, you should try both the 164 and 171's before you decide. but that deal for $425, is a great deal.
post #21 of 24
It appears you've received excellent advice from Phil and SSH. I agree, the Metron M:9's will likely render you giddy with delight. They're fabulous intermediate skis and represent a new generation of technology. $425 is a steal!
post #22 of 24

M9s

Quote:
Originally Posted by deedar
I can pick these up for $425. Comments? Can you tell which Neox bindings these are?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7135423215
These come with a Neox binding with a DIN range of 3 to 10.

I agree with everyone else's comments, although I would recommend that you try them before you buy them. It would be good if you could ski the 164 and the 171 to resolve the length issue.

$425 is an excellent price.

Good luck!

Doug
post #23 of 24
P.S. I believe the title of this thread is a contender for "Year's Best Thread Title".

It takes a solid self-image to post a title with self-effacing humor. Refreshing!
post #24 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well, well. I went and bought the 164s. Just arrived on 3/2. Grrrrr - I'll be out of town for a week and can't even try them out. Anyway, I bought them from "elvistheskiman" on eBay. The transaction was as smooth as silk. I highly recommend him!!!
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