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Twintip reverse carve

post #1 of 11
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Watched a guy while going up the lift skiing on twin tips reverse a big GS carve and finish the turn going backwards and then turn while skiing backwards the other direction. The backwards turns were really good carves too.

Anyway I had never witnessed anybody ski backwards with the same speed and precision this guy demonstarted. It was really something . Maybe I'm too easily impressed but I thought it was a heck of a feat and neat to witness.
post #2 of 11
I sure wish I coud do it on my TT's. Not much time to practice on the crowded hills here in the midwest.
post #3 of 11
I just got back from ESA. One of the other students in my group was demo'ing twin-tips, and he happened to have the same boot size as Bob Barnes, so they switched skis for a bit. I guess Bob wanted to play!

Anyway, we were skiing the Mr. K run at Big Sky (green circle, with funky fall lines). Bob was skiing backwards, laying down perfect railroad tracks. I was skiing forwards and trying to stay in Bob's tracks. It was pretty freaky, because I'm not used to looking at somebody's face while skiing!
post #4 of 11
Interesting! I have pocket rockets and play around with some backwards stuff.. nothing really impressive.

Today, at Park City - Utah, saw a guy hitting a terrain park jump backwards. But what really astounded me was a guy ripping a groomer backwards. It took me a second to figure out what I was looking at. At first I thought it was some funny kind of snow boarder, but then I realized it was a guy on skis - he had them tight together, ripping backwards, facing backwards. Somehow I'm thinking this is not all that rare for Park City.
post #5 of 11
Guys, it is not as difficult as you think.
When I ski backwards on my PE I use the technique and balance
control similar to backwards skating.
But, I've aways played D in hockey :-)
post #6 of 11
Back in the days when I would spend more time on my snowboards, I would get on my carving board with 65 degree angles (basically facing forward), and ride "switch", which meant I was riding backwards. It takes a bit of practice to figure how to stand balanced (skis or board) because the ankle, knee and hips really only bend in one direction. But once you get the idea of how to stand balanced and how to see where you are going, it's not all that hard. Just a bit disconcerting for a while.
post #7 of 11
I have tried carving backwards many times and I cannot seem to find the sweet spot. Whats the trick?

post #8 of 11
Originally Posted by Alfonse
I have tried carving backwards many times and I cannot seem to find the sweet spot. Whats the trick?

For me, it's standing really centred (almost putting more pressure on the heels). Most riders like to look to the outside of the turn which helps put weight on the outside ski for a clean carve (the skis stagger like a telemark turn with outside tip lead). I prefer to look to the inside because I like to see the direction I'm carving towards and eliminate the blind spot.
post #9 of 11
Originally Posted by Alfonse
I have tried carving backwards many times and I cannot seem to find the sweet spot. Whats the trick?

I would suggest getting on the easiest beginner hill you have, on a day when it is not crowded (don't want to bulldoze any kids), and just parctice for a couple of hours. Spend time experimenting with different positions. Find where you are comfortable, what works, what doesn't, etc.

Be careful not to move your shoulders and hips when trying to look where you are going. Looking to the outside may tend to over rotate your upper body and make the tails (oops, tips) wash out, but gives better visability to where you are about to turn - but again, rotates you away from where you want to turn. Looking to the inside helps build some counter rotation and keep the edges engaged better, as well as seeing where you are going as you go through the middle of the turn. But when it's time to turn, it makes you blind.

Because your bindings are mounted slightly toward the tails (unless you have twin tips which are mounted dead center - and this is why they mount them centered), you need to be pretty flat footed, with your weight about over your heels. It's very easy to lean "back" (up the hill) toward the tips, and you should try to avoid that.
post #10 of 11
I've been amazed a few times after seeing a guy hucking large air and landing switch ... and THEN making GS turns backwards the rest of the way.

Just the other day I aslo saw a video clip of a guy making tele turns backwards - now that looked hard.
post #11 of 11
carving switch is no simple task, however there are many people who can do it. However, you still need to employ all the skills needed while carving forward to carve switch. Just think about how much trouble many people have just using their edges properly while moving forward.

What impressed me most was when I was at a PSIA freestyle/freeride event last year and a girl from Jay Peak (happened to be nordic DEV team) had already figured out how to ski switch (and carve when wanted) in a alpine stance (heels down), she took it upon herself to figure out how to ski switch in a tele stance. I wish I remembered her name, but she thoroughly (sp?) impressed me on the snow, I had never seen someone skiing tele skis with that much skill/ability.
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