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Bandit XX Bevels!

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Could anyone tell me what the standard edge bevels are for the current (soon to be no more) Bandit XX. Also, anybody tried anything different from the norm and liked it? Thanks.
post #2 of 10
It's my understanding that they're one degree base and one degree edge. But don't take my word for it - let's wait to read what some others have to say.
post #3 of 10
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Originally posted by oboe:
It's my understanding that they're one degree base and one degree edge. But don't take my word for it - let's wait to read what some others have to say.
STOP THE PRESS!!! a bandit XX question that oboe can't answer!! What has the world come to?!?!

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post #4 of 10
roflao!!!
post #5 of 10
Check this out:
http://www.tognar.com/edgetips.html

[ February 25, 2003, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: TJazz ]
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the help all. 1 and 1 it is!
post #7 of 10
If you get high edge angles in your skiing you're going to want more than a 90 degree edge. So if you have 1 deg base go with 2 deg side. Do a little experimenting with the base bevel first. Start out at 0 or 1/2 deg on the base and then go up from there.

Important is to start off with a good flat base. A lot of new skis are not -they're often concave. So get a good shop to flatten the bottoms and put a structure in. If you ski in hard snow a concave ski will be very grabby and will not want to slide sideways.

There are no definitive "answers" to what the edge angles are just what you like. The "answers" tend to be what works well for a lot of people but you might like something different.

So they changed the name to "B 2" is it a different ski?

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I forgot this story- I was going up on the chairlift once and the guy had a pair of XX's on. We got to talking about the skis. He told me that at first he didn't like them until someone told him to put a 2 deg bevel on the side. "Wow, like a different ski" Weird thing was - he only put the 2 deg on one edge so he had different angles on each side! Now you've got a left and a right ski...

I'd recommend putting the same angles on both sides.

[ February 25, 2003, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: Tog ]
post #8 of 10
I asked Rossi what the "correct" angles were, & they replied w/ 1 degree base & 1 degree side. I ended up riding a lift up w/ a Rossi ski tester a little over a month ago. We were talking about the XX & how I liked them. He said that one of the problems they hear often is that they don't hold too well on hardpack, which I agreed can be an issue. He suggested I try a 1/2 degree base & 2 degree side. He said that a big or strong skier should not have a problem, but that it might be inappropriate for a lighter and/or less aggressive skier. For the record, I haven't tried it yet, but might give it a go towards the end of the season.
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Important is to start off with a good flat base. A lot of new skis are not -they're often concave. So get a good shop to flatten the bottoms and put a structure in. If you ski in hard snow a concave ski will be very grabby and will not want to slide sideways
In my experience most new skis are pretty good from factory these days and don't need to be touched. I have 2 pair of XX, one had a base that has a SLIGHT scalloping along the base. The other pair was perfect.

Stick with 1/1, the factory setting unless you feel that you need something different. I have tried 1/1 and 1/2 on these skis. I generally use them off-piste and prefer factory 1/1. Yes it's true that the extra degree makes a big difference but they aren't the ideal ski for hard-pack so I prefer 1/1 and use different skis if I'm on hard pack piste.

Cheers,

Pete
post #10 of 10
I have in fact experimented with changing from factory recommmended 1 and 1 to a sharper 1 and 2 on my Rossi T-Power shorties and my K2 Mod 7/8 ["Axis"]. It makes a difference, of course, but did not make me happier, so I had the bevels restored to 1 and 1. Testing skis at Killington a few days ago, some were better on hard snow than others. At this point, if I want an all-around ski that does well on hard and soft snow - I'll buy a pair, and leave the bevel at factory recommended angles.
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