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Thread Starter 
Hi Everyone,
I'm new to this forum and I have several questions that I'm hoping some of you could help me with. I'm planning to buy 2 pairs of skis soon, for myself and my daughter. I've studied up a bit, mostly looking at women specific skis. I am a cautious intermediate. My daughter is almost 16, but hasn't skied in about 3 years. She is athletic, plays varsity ice hockey, and took lessons when she was younger. She attained a level of 7. The last skis I bought her were straight, but she skied on rented shaped skis (3 years ago). I would like her to have fun right off, but also would like her to be able to progress fairly quickly as I think she will get the chance to ski more now. I've been looking at Atomic C-8, Volkl 20/20 carver V3, K2 T-nine flight, and Dynastar Intuitive 69L. I think these are all mostly intermediate skis. Does anyone have any experience with these, or thoughts about what might be most appropriate for my daughter. I don't think we'll be able to get to any demo days before the holidays. If it makes a difference, she weights 120, and is 5 feet 1 inch. We were looking at about 150 cm. I would really appreciate any advice you might have! Thanks so much. Cat
post #2 of 8
I can only answer on one listed ski. The C:8 is a very good ski. Construction is triple beta, which leads to great torsional rigidity (which translates to great hold on ice). The shape allows for easy carving. Coupled with the Device binding, you have a lightweight easy carving ski.

Another model to consider is the Atomic e:7. It shares the same construction and binding as the C:8. The big difference is the overall width of the ski where the e:7 is 8mm wider overall. Turn radius remains the same for corresponding lengths. The wider shape make for a more stable platform and helps with float when the snow gets soft.

Either model should keep you happy. If you ski west, go with a wider ski. If you are in the east, the narrower C:8 would be better for the harder conditions.

As to size... if you go with a length around nose height you should be fine.

[ November 09, 2002, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: BetaRacer ]
post #3 of 8
Hi Cat,

I am going to assume that this is a mother and daughter post.

First question is whether she is still involved in hockey, and if she is how much time will there be for skiing ?

If you both are going to be sking less that ten days a season and going to a resort for say a week of those ten days, then renting may be a better financial option.

Now if you both are going to be skiing much more than ten times per season, then owning could be the better choice.

For you Cat [ mom ] since you are cautious, one of the Volant Vertex Women specific skis, e.g. Vertex 71, if that is too stiff then the Volkl Vertigo Motion. These are one decision skis, i.e. they can take you from intermediate skiing to expert skiing, and last as long as five seasons.

For your daughter, since she plays varsity ice hockey, which is an excellent crossover sport, she could use the Vertex 71 as well, but I believe she is stronger and may be more aggressive for that ski, so a ski like the Volkl Carver Motion 20/20 which is one that you have already indicated in your post might be a better choice.

As to length, a 170 for your daughter, should be sufficient.If she wants a little faster turning ski [ her hockey skills will easily transfer to her skiing technique, ] go even shorter unless you will be skiing a lot of powder and heavy snow. Then a ski as short as 160 might be a lot of fun for your athletic daughter.

As for you, I am going to GUESS that you are about 5'4"-5'6" tall and weight about 137 lbs. I wouldn't go longer than 170 cm and if you are closer to your daughter's weight and size a 160 cm ski should be fine.

Boots, the fit is very important. Your daughter should really be aware of this because of her skates. So great fitting boots, with custom insoles, and proper alignment are more important than the skis [ you can rent the skis.] Boots first, and then if affordable buy the skis. Don't cut corners on boot fit, the custom insoles, and alignment because I think if you.....
post #4 of 8
Originally posted by Cat:
Hi Everyone,
I don't think we'll be able to get to any demo days before the holidays. Cat
Which holidays? If its thanksgiving your right but if its Christmas there are some demos that may be near you. I see your from CT. Hunter in NY is having demos on Dec 7th and 8th

check their web site


I haven't been to Hunter on a weekend in years because of the crowds but it might be worth looking into.

[ November 11, 2002, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: PRAGMATICSKIER ]
post #5 of 8
Hi Cat,

It's hard to find a bad ski. All the ones you mentioned should work great.

My daughters demoed a couple of years ago. They ended up with the Volkl 20/20's because we got the best deal on them.

I think they would have been just as happy with many other skis also.

I think you've got the right idea on length, short is good.

As mentioned, boot fit is extremely important.

I think narrow waisted skis are better on groomed slopes, where you will likely spend most of your time for now.

Have Fun!!! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 

I just wanted to thank those of you who responded to my post. I very much appreciated your thoughtful responses, and I think I've decided to go with the Atomic C-8 18's for my daughter, and Volkl V3 carver for myself. It's been fun studying up on equipment and I have learned alot from reading this forum.I hope we progress with our new ski's; we are going to have a lot of fun trying. We are taking your advice and trying on lots of boots to get the right fit. A high "performance" boot is probably not what we need right now; they seem too stiff without much flex. Any experience, pros or cons with Salomon Performa 6 or 7. They seem to be one of the most comfortable, and I'm told by salespeople, I would'nt sacrifice too much in performance at our level. Well, thanks again for the feedback. Cat
post #7 of 8
If the shape of the performa 6 or 7 match your foot shape , I would recomend the salomon wave 6 for women it is a more snug fit , but it matches the leval of the vectris 3 20/20 , you would not get the max benifit of the Volkl with the 6 or 7 performa , they are a more intermediate boot. If you try the wave 6 , make sure they heat up the boot and keep it on for at least 20 minutes.
post #8 of 8
Hi Cat! & welcome to the forum.

Not much to add to the advice given but if you go to a local shop where you are going to ski they will rent you demos and will subtract the rental price from your purchase price. This is a good way to "demo" for free. Also, don't restrict yourself to "womens" skis. These really are only deemed womens skis because women are generally lighter than men and therefore generally will prefer a ski with a lighter flex.

You mentioned the 150cm size. Definitly for your daughter. You didn't tell us what size you are but don't go too long unless you are an unusually tall and larger female. Even ladies of this size who are expert skiers are now skiing 160-170cm skis.

One of the suggestions you already received was about boots and I agree. Fit is the all-important thing. All others are secondary. Don't demo or rent boots. Try, try, try at a good shop. Ask if they will do customing like blowing the boot out for you in case you have an extra wide foot, protruding bones, etc. (Most of us have something like that). They should do this free or at a nominal cost since you're buying the boots from them.

If I may make a suggestion about your cautiousness; take a lesson or two. It will help you keep up to your daughter. Those youngsters are harder to keep up to with each passing year & run!

Keep skiing faster! :

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