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Whistler - so sad

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Lee and I had to go up and see for ourselves. It can't be that bad???

Can it???

The top of Excalibur:



Under Excelerator Chair:



The view of Whistler runs from Blackcomb - Bear Paw and Tokum



Not your typical valley view in January:



Very icy conditions, the T-bar area was ok.

Praying for the February dump...

If you're heading up bring your bikes. I hear River Runs Through it is ridable, as is Train Wreck.
post #2 of 29
gasp. I heard it, but I didn't believe it. Now I believe it. Never thought it could happen at Whistler.
post #3 of 29
Yup. I have some videos of torrents of water going down bear paw last week. Very awful indeed.
post #4 of 29
oh my
post #5 of 29
OMG! I just postponed the trip from next week to some time possibly late March. Never thought it was this bad, but W/B acts like nothing happening shown on their website.
post #6 of 29
Eeks! that is worse than I had thought. I don't suppose you have any pics of conditions up higher?
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by wizard
Eeks! that is worse than I had thought. I don't suppose you have any pics of conditions up higher?
Nope sorry. There's decent coverage up high but its pretty packed up there as thats where the only runs are to be had. It is icy though.
post #8 of 29

Won't Get Fooled Again

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Originally Posted by Dolphin
Never thought it was this bad, but W/B acts like nothing happening shown on their website.
Agreed! Unbelievable! The front page photo is a boarder buried in snow, with the caption: "We Have Snow".

Do they think they'll win long-term followers by fooling them? The strategy seems to be: "just get the bodies up here - we'll worry about the rest later."

In addition, the "Snow Report" page is thoroughly cryptic. The dreaded "R" word never appears. It's only "precipitation", and it's up to you to find the freezing altitude and compute snow or rain.

It seems that fear of loss rules all.
post #9 of 29
Yes, sounds like W/B is in panic mode and trying to bring in whatever short-term revenues they can to make this year's numbers less bad (or avoid breaching their borrowing covenants which is probably teh real driver) and stuff the longer-term impact.

On a more positive note though, assuming there is some proper business logic in place, hopefully they will be rethinking their overall strategy and realizing they have to work to bring business back in instead of their approach in recent years of sitting back and relying on their reputation and steadily hiking their prices up.

This is usually the week I am out there, just lucky that I had different plans this year.
post #10 of 29
I'd say they are due for a massive dump!

powsniffr
post #11 of 29
Those pics look as bad as things here in Fernie.

I went up yesterday afternoon, terrible is an understatement. Only a handfull of groomers are skiable on the upper mountain, no snow on the lower slopes. You have to download on the Timber chair to get back down.

This season is pretty much a write off unless a miracle happens. It doesen't seem likely as it's about +6 deg C and raining lightly this morning.

I've skiied Fernie for about 32 seasons now and this is the worst I have seen. I doubt I will buy a seasons pass next year...IMHO the last 3 seasons have only been mediocre....sad!!!
post #12 of 29
eff it - were heading to Rogers Pass. Want to come?

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Originally Posted by Ferniefreeheels
Those pics look as bad as things here in Fernie.

I went up yesterday afternoon, terrible is an understatement. Only a handfull of groomers are skiable on the upper mountain, no snow on the lower slopes. You have to download on the Timber chair to get back down.

This season is pretty much a write off unless a miracle happens. It doesen't seem likely as it's about +6 deg C and raining lightly this morning.

I've skiied Fernie for about 32 seasons now and this is the worst I have seen. I doubt I will buy a seasons pass next year...IMHO the last 3 seasons have only been mediocre....sad!!!
post #13 of 29
El Nino sucks the big one.
post #14 of 29
I was just at Whistler this past weekend. The upper mountain (at least the Whistler side of things) was not that bad to be honest. You had to ride Peak or Harmony to get to the decent stuff. Things did look to be better off Peak chair. And if you were willing to hike the 10 minutes to Flute bowl, omg, it was very very nice. We got some fresh tracks on some runs and very nice powder to board through. I wish I had pictures to post and show.

The snow is there. You just have to go look for it or be a little willing to walk off the beaten and tracked out path to get to it.

Now that being said, around the Roundhouse and down to Emerald Chair did leave a little to be desired. I found it a touch icy in spots and slushy towards the bottom. The base appears to stubbornly be holding on, though. I would say another foot of snow and the mountain will spring back to life.

I have another trip planned in March for Roxy snowboard camp and I'm looking forward to it. The weird thing about Pacific Northwest weather is that it can change dramatically overnight. Winter isn't over yet.

-Forever the optimist it would seem
post #15 of 29
Not to be demanding but please God, it's time for some dumpage here!
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by hiski
Not to be demanding but please God, it's time for some dumpage here!
LOL
post #17 of 29
What a terrible deal Whistler's getting. Many of us are getting the shaft this winter, but for somewhere that's generally a bastion of hope to be hurting so bad is truly pitiful.
post #18 of 29
I too was at Whistler last weekend. We took our hiking boots just in case. But on the top part of the mountain the conditions were pretty good. Skied 3 days and had a great time and left the hiking boots back at the place. Peak, Harmony and Franz's chair had better than expected conditions. We are expecting 10-15 cm Thursday, Friday above 1400 metres so fingers crossed.
post #19 of 29
What are the lift lines like for those that have been to Whistler recently? With the lower mountain closed, would think lift lines would be an issue.
post #20 of 29
I wonder if W/B is going to top ski mag's "best resorts" list next year.....
post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by lshull
I wonder if W/B is going to top ski mag's "best resorts" list next year.....
I also wonder if the PR damage is permanent or short term. The beef in the past with W/B has always been the weather/snow. This year pretty much confirms that and I seriously doubt they can recover any time soon. Can you imagine what the world will think when they see rain on the downhill course during the 2010 olympics?

Powdr
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by Powdr
I also wonder if the PR damage is permanent or short term. The beef in the past with W/B has always been the weather/snow. This year pretty much confirms that and I seriously doubt they can recover any time soon. Can you imagine what the world will think when they see rain on the downhill course during the 2010 olympics?

Powdr
Let's see, el Nino's happen about every 3 years in the PNW, so this being 2005 and the winter olympics are in 2010, there might be a chance for a bad year come the Olympics.
post #23 of 29
Reports that I've been hearing for this week is that things are starting to recover with the recent snowfalls. More is still needed but the upper alpine is just fine. I should be able to give a 1st hand report after I head up this weekend.
post #24 of 29
Lift lines are great(short). Only Harmony can still get a little busy. The president of the IOC was in town. Says he is not worried about the snow and mentioned that during the year before the Salt Lake City Olympic Games that all events were cancelled due to no snow. So it can happen anywhere. This year just happens to be Whistler's turn.
post #25 of 29

Please help - Whistler trip on 2/18!!!

Please help me. I have my dream trip to Whistler planned starting 2/18. Do I reschedule now to somewhere in Colorado? Is there any hope of having decent conditions in 18 days? Or is a miracle needed? Thanks!!!
post #26 of 29
Obersee,

I have a trip planned out there for the 13th - 20th. For right now I am just praying for lots and lots of snow.

From the sounds of it, there is still skiing to be done out there, its just not as epic as we might have dreamt it to be.

Start sacrificing to the snow gods.
post #27 of 29
Lots of us in the same boat, heading there Feb 22 thru Mar 5. Que sera sera ..........
post #28 of 29
Same here trip planned for the middle of march!!! First time to W/B. Fingers are crossed.
post #29 of 29

not so bad

I was at Whistler this last weekend (Ski'd Sunday, Monday, Tuesday).

I had a great time. I prefer the stuff at the top so most runs I really like were still open with plenty of snow. It was definitely good that the 6" of snow came down in the last week as there was ice under that in some spots. However, I had a great time skiing under Glacier Express chair on Heavenly Basin and some others. Also, the trees of 7th Heaven (Everglades and some unmarked ones) had plenty of fluff for a good time. Flute looked beautiful from Blackcomb, but we didn't venture there.

Whistler Bowl was nice, but had 0 visibility on the Sunday we went, but any Whistler vet knows how that goes.

In any case, its not all doom and gloom if you prefer black to blue or green.

Lift lines were non-existent and the food was actually reasonable with the 50% off special they have going (had lunch, 2 pieces of pizza, snickers, and poweraide for $6 US.).

Take the gondola down at the end of the day and do not, I repeat, do NOT venture onto the slush hell that is the 1 open run on the bottom of each mountain.

My pics from 7th Heaven (everglades area):



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