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New Atomic Ski boots for 2005/6

post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
Another friend of mine, an Italian skiman working with WC skiers, sent me these pics about the Atomic boots for next season:

post #2 of 37

White boots

I personally hate white boots.....

Reminds me of beginner lady boots from the eighties...

Would your friend have pictures of the 2005-06 Metrons?
post #3 of 37
I just unloaded 2 skids of metrons and bindings from a truck. Alas I don't have a camera and not sure how excited I am about pulling boxes apart just yet.
post #4 of 37

L7

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Originally Posted by L7
I just unloaded 2 skids of metrons and bindings from a truck. Alas I don't have a camera and not sure how excited I am about pulling boxes apart just yet.
Just DO it!

We are ALL dying to see!
post #5 of 37

Atomic Boots

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Originally Posted by JohnSki
Another friend of mine, an Italian skiman working with WC skiers, sent me these pics about the Atomic boots for next season:

What's the general opinion of Atomic's boots?
post #6 of 37
Thread Starter 
The skiman told me that these new boots (he uses Head) provide a better and more comfortable fit he is used to with the brand.
post #7 of 37
Boxes opened, no boots. There are some other boxes untouched floating about but mostly binders I think. Again, the inertia.
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BTW I think the 05/06s look cooler, a couple of new ones two. Should be no more confusion between M:X and M:eX, now seems officially M:10 which is way easier.
post #8 of 37
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Originally Posted by L7
BTW I think the 05/06s look cooler, a couple of new ones two. Should be no more confusion between M:X and M:eX, now seems officially M:10 which is way easier.

Pics! We need pics of the skis!!!!
post #9 of 37
I can only say that those boots are DAMN ugly.
Who designed them, Tonya Harding (figure skater)?
post #10 of 37

Hey L7!!!

BTW I think the 05/06s look cooler, a couple of new ones two. Should be no more confusion between M:X and M:eX, now seems officially M:10 which is way easier.[/quote]

Don't be teasin' if you ain't gonna be pleasin'!

SHOW US THE METRONS!!!!!
post #11 of 37
I know nasty isn't it? But seriously I don't have a camera. It isn't really up to me to decide when to release this sort of thing either.
post #12 of 37
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Originally Posted by L7
I know nasty isn't it? But seriously I don't have a camera. It isn't really up to me to decide when to release this sort of thing either.
This is just killing these guys , you want me to bring over a camera or just beer?
post #13 of 37
How can a serious skier discuss whether some boots are ugly or not?
It´s true that white is impractical since it catches dirt easily and changes into shabby white-gray
(at least my Koflachs Comp in the early 80´s did - may be better now)
if your sponsor doesn´t give you a new pair each spring
but isn´t performance that we are interested in?
It´s IMHO, of course, and my philosophy.
post #14 of 37
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Originally Posted by Leeroy
This is just killing these guys , you want me to bring over a camera or just beer?
Beer first... camera much later. How's that boot press coming?
post #15 of 37

L7 - How about some crayola crans drawings?

Personally, I think it's cool that Atomic has gone with the white look. At least they are trying to differentiate their boots from the same bland yellows and grays and blacks that everyone else seems to use. Now as far as fit goes, I still have aches in my feet from my old Atomic BetaRides. Don't think I'll ever go back. The ol' dogs don't want no more pain like those old BetaRides.
post #16 of 37
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Originally Posted by checkracer
How can a serious skier discuss whether some boots are ugly or not?
It´s true that white is impractical since it catches dirt easily and changes into shabby white-gray
(at least my Koflachs Comp in the early 80´s did - may be better now)
if your sponsor doesn´t give you a new pair each spring
but isn´t performance that we are interested in?
It´s IMHO, of course, and my philosophy.
Easy there Checkracer! You're not the ONLY SERIOUS SKIER here. MY first opinion on seeing those new atomic boots is that they are truly fUGLY. Kinda hard to demo them, and comment about performance, when they are not available as of yet. I heard the new Skoda has some kick ass performance as well, however you wouldn't see me zippin' around in that either.
CHEERS!
post #17 of 37
Those white boots reminde me of Suzy Chaffee, white Hansens, and chap stick commercials from the 60's.

Different, yes! Good? Well....
post #18 of 37
I absolutely love the look of Atomic Race Tech, just wish it fit me so I could ski in it!

The red cuff matches my favorite lipstick!
post #19 of 37
I am surprised how high the hinge point is on the cuff. That is no where near the ankle would actually flex.
post #20 of 37
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Originally Posted by L7
Beer first... camera much later. How's that boot press coming?
Should be able to finish it today (boot press) along with copious amounts of beer.
post #21 of 37
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am surprised how high the hinge point is on the cuff. That is no where near the ankle would actually flex.
Flex.....?????? Now Phil you know that nobody here could flex that boot , they just think they can.
post #22 of 37
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Originally Posted by Nix
Easy there Checkracer! You're not the ONLY SERIOUS SKIER here. MY first opinion on seeing those new atomic boots is that they are truly fUGLY.
Perfectly easy, Nix.
As I put it, "It´s IMHO, of course, and my philosophy."
There are people like me who don´t care how their skis or boots look like and there are others who do.
I only suppose the number of "aesthetic barbarians" is higher among experts but don´t say each expert is one nor that who cares is not.
Btw, I also don´t have a Skoda car.
post #23 of 37
Those are the most stylish boots out there. I could explain why (IMO) they are so cool, but that would put me high on a soapbox ranting about the difference between fashion and style. And well, that's not a very flattering rant (as if any rant is flattering) for a guy to engage in. So rather than go in that direction with this post, I'll simply say this:

My biggest pet peeve with any "enthusiast" community is the ignorant (note" I don't mean "ignorant" as an insult, but rather to mean "lack of knowledge") supposition that only dilettants worry about how a product looks. I have said it before, and it bears repeating: if product design didn't matter, companies wouldn't spend so much money on it. It DOES matter. Sure nobody should buy the wrong equipment because the gear looks cool, but when deciding between two similar products, factors like brand loyalty and design appeal typically arise. To think otherwise is, well, naive.

That all being said, if I upgrade boots off-season, I will check out the Dalbello Kryptons (Flexons) first. Not because they are the coolest looking -- they aren't anywhere near as cheek-chic as these Atomics -- but because they have been so positively received.
post #24 of 37
As for people commenting on their looks ... we are, after all, commenting on a couple pictures.

My reaction:

- If they're on the feet of Bode Miller, Herman Maier and Daron Rahlves, they start to look cool, whatever they look like.

- On the other hand, I have a sort of unpleasant '70s flashback when I see white boots.

A bigger thought: it looks like they are taking a page out of the Nordica Dobermann playbook by expanding their plug boot (looks and design) into a more consumer variant? Is that what the "CS" is?
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
On the other hand, I have a sort of unpleasant '70s flashback when I see white boots.
A bigger thought: it looks like they are taking a page out of the Nordica Dobermann playbook by expanding their plug boot (looks and design) into a more consumer variant? Is that what the "CS" is?
I had white Koflachs Competition SL in the 70´s and they were great boots. Lea Sölkner was SL World Champion 1978 in them.
Maybe that´s why I don´t have anything against white (ski boots)?

The comeback of classic shell in Atomic? Maybe the beginning of the end of the TriTech construction?
Maybe not - just speculation, as often.

Btw, what´s CS?
(Used to stand for CzechoSlovakia )
post #26 of 37
I must have missed something ; those boots have been out for the past 2 seasons. The shell is a v.low vol.fit & the liner is quite firm.. think diablo, dobie.. there are also 4 degrees of shell stiffness to choose, most are S or M, yet still neet to be cut for better flex
post #27 of 37
The "Race Tech" has certainly been out since (I think) last season, not as a regular retail but a race stock product. What's in the picture as the "RT TI" seems to be the current Race Tech with some minor cosmetic changes. But I don't think there's a foam version now (then again, with this race stock stuff, there could be variants nobody knows about). The "RT CS" looks to be new, though. "Ruthless performance with a civilized fit" certainly suggests (if not outright claims) that it's not just the same thing with a softer flex. It sounds like they're doing the same thing that Nordica did in bringing out the Dobermann Pro.
post #28 of 37
The present Race Tec boot according to the Atomic Alpine Racing Catalog 04/05:
Z 101844 x-soft
Z 101840 soft
Z 101846 medium
all MP 24-27

Then Race VIP as soft and medium which is the standard Tritech construction
post #29 of 37
I've no doubt these are great boots. Everything Atomic does is outstanding (I love their skis).

However, I wonder if the Austrians may have overlooked the "cultural" implications of white boots. For me, it's difficult to separate the notion of "girls boots" from white.

How many men you know wear white shoes, white boots or white skates?

I could be wrong about this. But, I suspect that more than one consumer may feel this way, and that it will impact overall sales.

Anything that impinges upon a male's sense of "manliness" (whether justified or not) will likely be felt at the cash registar.
post #30 of 37
Don´t forget Europe is the biggest market worldwide. With the exception of France Europe is crazy about everything "Racing".
As I heard, the Japanese think the same way. They adore racing products and racing look.

As sjjohnston put it:
"If they're on the feet of Bode Miller, Herman Maier and Daron Rahlves, they start to look cool, whatever they look like."
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