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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Skied my new B3's for the very first time last Monday at Steamboat. There was maybe two inches of fresh snow, maybe. The conditions weren't what I was hoping for but made the best of it. There was some good snow in a few spots, some trees and mostly the bump runs were real nice. They had some fluff left mainly because no one was skiing them.

Groomers were hardpack with some clumps. Skis powered right through everything with ease. They turned real nice in the trees but I struggled a bit with the girth in the moguls. Really had to power them through the turns and felt myself struggling a bit, uncomfortable. I didn't like this feeling at all. I like to be in command of the ski, not visa versa.

One plus was the stability at high speed. I was expecting a real stable ride while cruising and they were that, stable. I tried laying down some tracks in the carving mode but tipping these babies and digging in was not easy.

I never really got to use them in any kind of skiable powder, which was a disappointment, so I'll reserve another report when this happens. I left the skis with my Son in Steamboat so they will be there when Igo out next month. Hopefully they will get the a## whipping they'll deserve so I can give you all my real review. I have demoed the B3 so I kind of understood what they were going to be like. Compared to other skis I've tried in the past, I now i'll be happy.
post #2 of 26
Thread Starter 
Now I'm going to rave about my B2's. My Lord, they are such an awesomely good all round ski for just about any kind of conditions.

Anybody who doubts the versatility and stamina of this ski should really try one on. Carve like a race ski and pound bumps like an animal.

This is my third year on this ski and it still is tops with me.
post #3 of 26
Lars,
I second your comments on the B2's. In Montana so much of the steep terrain and bowls is moguls and I love the fact the B2's don't beat me up like some of the stiffer skis I've tried. Others might view me as skiing on a wimpy noodle but at the end of the day I have a big smile on my face and that's all that matters.

Next time we get a big dump I want to demo the B3's. I'm optimistic about them considering what a winner Rossignol built with the B2. I look forward to your review.
post #4 of 26
Lars,

Your impression of the B3 mirrors mine. I would love to have a pair for powder days and crud days. However, for everyday out west ski I like Head Mosnster 75 iM Chip and the Monster 85 better.

The 75 is great everywhere and handles the pow nice enough. It'll lay RR tracks and blast through crud good enough. Bumps a not a problem

The Monster 85 will not float as nice as the B3 but it blast through the crud better. The new design is much better than the Monster of 4 years ago and bumps are managable but I tended to plow through them rather than ski them.

Ed
post #5 of 26
In previous post, I reported on my half-day at Snowbird on B3's -- lots of heavy (for Utah) powder and crud around. The B3 was great at blasting through. Some report that it is kind of soft, but for western snow it is perfect. The other half of that day I used the controversial Pocket Rocket. I had even more fun on it than the B3, as it is quicker and a better carver. Crud: advantage B3 Quickness/turns/bumps: Advantage PR Float: both are great. Weight: advantage PR
post #6 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billiam
In previous post, I reported on my half-day at Snowbird on B3's -- lots of heavy (for Utah) powder and crud around. The B3 was great at blasting through. Some report that it is kind of soft, but for western snow it is perfect. The other half of that day I used the controversial Pocket Rocket. I had even more fun on it than the B3, as it is quicker and a better carver. Crud: advantage B3 Quickness/turns/bumps: Advantage PR Float: both are great. Weight: advantage PR
I've owned the PR's and B3's. Your comments generally reflect my experiences on those skis as well, but I found the B3 to have much better float than the PRs. It's wider as as not a forward mounted as the PR's. I found the PRs were fine till you get in really deep pow (ie. knee high and deeper). The forward mount and long tail on the PRs made the tips want to dive. You can definitely feel the snow alot better on the PR's which is its strong point and weak point. The floaty feel you get on the PR is unlike any other ski, however once the snow gets tracked out and turns heavier, you'll get tossed around where the B3 won't.

You really need to demo both skis to decide which suits you better.
post #7 of 26
Lars,
Someone is selling a pair of 2006 Rossignol B2's on EBAY that they picked up in Europe with dimensions of 116-78-105. I look forward to seeing their new lineup. If they could build as versatile ski (as the current B2) with a little more width then more power to them.
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Magnoe,

If they could improve on it, they would. I don't know how. Change the color maybe? Which they've done already it seems. I've yet to ski a ski that I like better than the one I've got now. If and when I do, I'll buy it reguardless of the manufacturer. I'm curious about the changes in the B3 and the new B4.
post #9 of 26
Lars,
The new B2 is wider than the current apparantly (116-78-105) versus the current 113-76-103... in case you didn't catch that.
post #10 of 26
How much powder/crud do you need to use the width of the B3? How deep?
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
Sounds like it may have a little better float being a tad wider throughout.

Ryel, I bought the B3 for windblown slab and crud, conditions not so much for float in deep powder. The B2 is awesome in powder and I like to ski pow down in a little bit rather than floating on top. Where I struggle some with the B2 is in blown slab, chunked up deep crud, like you would find in the hike to areas of Copper, Breck and ABasin.

The B3 is a big mountain ski. What really attracted me to it was all the Alaska people who used to post here. They all skied the XXX and B3. Just for the reasons I described above. I've yet to experience these conditions on the B3 I bought but have on the XXX. Hopefully in a few weeks when I go back to Colorado.
post #12 of 26
The guy selling the Euro B2 on EBay claims that they have redesigned the tip to make it better in crud -- and the width went from 76 to 78 mm. Sound like good changes to me. Makes it more versatile without sacraficing versatility
post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 
This may be true Billiam, but the extra width can only hurt their performance in Moguls. I'm not quite sure how much difference 2 mm's are going to make, but right now they perform so nicely in Bumps. Why screw with that?
post #14 of 26
hey all - I'm late to the party here. Have any of you skied the new B2?

I'm thinking of buy a set of B2s but was told I could get the 2006 model if I wait a few weeks. The extra mm's wouldn't hurt here at Whistler.

Thanks,

db
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
Water skis wouldn't hurt at Whistler!
post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
You'd be better off getting a good deal on this years B2. I've skied this ski the past three seasons. It's awesome. Hard for me to believe they have improved it.
post #17 of 26
At Whistler over the past fews weeks I tried many skies including the B2 and B3. Both my wife and I much preferred the feel of the B3 over the B2. Much more lively and solid under foot. The B2 felt a little dead. Could have been the tune or the wax. Conditions were varied. Everything from only 2 inches of new to last weekend's 1 foot of new snow. Only on the hardest of conditions did I not think that the B3 excelled very well. Alot of guys use this as their go everywhere ski here. BTW, the new B4 is the same as last years model but with new graphics and the new B3 is 88mm under foot.
post #18 of 26
I thought the new b3 was 85 underfoot?

All this talk about the current B3 gets me excited to demo them. I'm sure the b3 shone much brighter than the B2 in a foot of freshies. When things get tracked out is when the B2 starts to really excel... just love them when things get bumped out.
post #19 of 26

06' Rossi

The specs on the 06' b2 and b3 that I have from Rossi are:
B2 116/78/105
B3 120/83/110

The B4 is the same as the 05 B3

I did get to ride the New Zenith Z9 Over size TI 126/74/105 and it was a kick, Carving, Pow, good speed and bumps
post #20 of 26

More Energy

All the new Bandits will have more energy. Titanum inlay with a damping system. There call the B4 Big Mtn comp ski, 90% of track, Helli, Back country. I'll get on a pair next week out in Kirkwood and Mammoth. The Z9 is looking like a good all mountain carver/freeride got my pair a week ago and will have them in Calif too. Lock and load.
post #21 of 26
Anyone know what the dimensions of the B-Squad 91 and 98 are?
post #22 of 26
B Squad is supposedly 134 102 123, a replica of the team freeride.

Here's some more info from another site (for those who can read a bit of french): http://www.skipass.com/forums/sports...jet-43839.html


and some photos:

http://www.skipass.com/articles/news2004/b_squad.php
post #23 of 26
I'm a little lost here. What is the B Squad? Those graphics look like the new B4. Is the B squad a ski marketed to 3-pinners?
post #24 of 26
Here's a bit of info:


Plus, there's a BSquad (at least in Europe) which is an overpriced replica of this year's freeride team ski. Here's a shot of that one:

post #25 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by adviljunky
Here's a bit of info:
Plus, there's a BSquad (at least in Europe) which is an overpriced replica of this year's freeride team ski. Here's a shot of that one:
Actually if something is overpriced, it's the regular B3/B4. The squad has a race room construction and is a very ilmited production. You get way more for your money that what you get in a regular Bandit.
Not that it matters anyway, this ski would be unmanageable for 99% of the skiers (very very very stiff).
post #26 of 26
I saw the B Squad on the hill today in Whistler while i was working. It was owned by one of the local Rossignol sponsored pro riders. he was singing its praises. He loved the construction but he mentioned that the extra fast base and expensive manufacture makes it very difficult to bring it to market at an affordable price. He mentioned that it costs Rossignol CA$1000 to produce!!! He believed that you will probably be able to buy it next year.
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