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Best way of avoiding collision with ski buddies.

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
: Hello everyone,
I am pondering over the last incident when one of my ski friends decided to cross over to the left and stop. Luckily, he stopped 12 feet away from me (with a loud scream from me of course) and I have no more room on the left to steer away from possible collision. I always leave some room for thing like this but it was too close for comfort. The slope is big and wide open but at that speed it only take any of us, less than a second to cross over and hit others. I slow down when one crossing over. It was unexpected however.
I would like to know what is the best way of skiing fast with friends with less posibility of collision ?
Thanks everyone.
post #2 of 15
Follow them at a safe distance or have them follow you, and don't do stupid things when being followed. Ski faster than anyone else on the hill and no one will hit you from behind. Ski in complete control at all times.
post #3 of 15
When I'm skiing with people that I can't absolutely trust I ski either in front of them or behind them.... never in the middle of them. More or less like what's said above.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm waiting for more ideas and will have a talk with them. We're far apart actually but there was lot of speed. Thanks all.
post #5 of 15
on Jan 13 I skied with 5 of my friends, we roved about in packs, sometimes very close to each other. I found that it's just like driving at highway speeds, you have to give yourself enough room to either stop or safely turn (even if sharply and unexpectedly) if someone should do something in front of you that somehow blocks your intended line.

I try to think of it as driving at 90-100mph, you need to give yourself more room than you might first imagine.
post #6 of 15
Wait long enough between skiers. Duh

I can't ski with anyone near me. Broken ribs, a punctured lung and New Years Eve listening to an old woman yell “Nurse, I’ve wet myself” are enough of a lesson for me. I know I'll be taking up a lot of real estate and don’t want anyone - especially my buddies anywhere near me.

Take your own lines instead of skiing like a lemming. Flash the run top to bottom – don’t stop, that’ll thin you out. Don’t stop at the top of a pitch.

If you stop and congregate then go back to the first sentence.
post #7 of 15
Make sure they are far enough behind you not to be a problem, and if you're going to stop, do it in a controlled way and at the side of the slope
post #8 of 15
It's been a long time since I've been flying but, the rules for "formation flying" and skiing close (off your friends tails), should be the same. Prearranged!

Don't just drop in on their tails, if you know that someone on right behind you, you just won't (unless necessary), come to a sudden stop.
post #9 of 15

Suggested good sense

1. Most of us skiers have a consistent "speed range" we maintain, and those who ski reasonably fast are doing physics on the fly all the time, deciding we don't have to worry about that skier on the left cutting right because we'll be past them before their erratic behavior becomes a collision issue. In a group of friends, unless you have someone who's very unpredictable, you should almost immeditately have a handle on who's crusising speed is faster, and who's is slower. If you ski in a gaggle, the faster skiers should take off first/go ahead, because that dramatically reduces the collisions from overtaking skiers as you ski together all day.

2. Be predictable, especially if you're being consistently overtaken. If you make consistent radius turns, (and, better yet, even signal with a pole touch), you're very hard to hit. If you suddenly decide to brake hard and shoot left out of nowhere, or suddenly kick in an inside hand on the snow seventy degree inclination cranker, you're very easy to hit.

3. If you don't have room to avoid collisions given the crowded nature of the hill/profusion of obstacles, you are skiing too fast. You need to slow down, as a group. It's just like driving on the freeway--the faster the speed and fewer options for swerving, the slower you have to go.

4. Ski less crowded runs.

5. Ski steeper runs. (See 4 above, and more people are in control.)
post #10 of 15
To maintain spacing and timing, I like to repeat the "beep...beep...beep...beep...BOOOOP!" of the starting gate right after the person in front of me goes. Keeps me from charging down the hill on their tails.
post #11 of 15
ALready been said- either go faster then your friends, and wait for them at the bottom, or go last and keep a comfortable distance behind them.

Or if one of them causes a potential problem more then once, invite him/her to ski at a different area then the one you are skiing at!

But are you sure YOU aren't the one causing the problem? Many times, people are completely oblivious to others, and create many problems for themselves! And then they blame others for not following the rules!
post #12 of 15
I have a good buddy and great skier who I have skied with for almost thrity years. In the old days he had boots that squeaked, so I always knew where he was . We really like to ski parallel to each other, so often take the opposite side on a deserted slope. Last winter we had a good laugh when we found ourselves taking the same line time after time-we had the same instinct for finding the untracked on the sides.

He is the only person I will ski side by side with, but we keep a good space between us and stay in the fall line when we do it. It is great fun. Makes us both feel young again. Lew
post #13 of 15
Wasn't really much of a problem before all this carving started. Everyone would take straight lines down the fall line. now days everyone is weaving back and forth across the slopes so much one has to constantly keep turning your head to see where the hell everyone else is.

On another note, I noticed a woman skiing yesterday with a sign on her back. It said, "please don't run into me because I don't have any health insurance" True story.
post #14 of 15
I found the best way to keep them from sticking behinde you is to buy a nice pair of twin tips the big ole rooster tails keep em far behind you, the faster you go the bigger teh tails, the farther they stay
post #15 of 15
Good points.

The biggest collision danger arises, of course, from people who are skiing (or riding) fast and out of control.

But a group of good and fast skiers skiing together at about the same speed may be the next most dangerous, because they can swoop across a big side-to-side expanse of run, and they tend to stay in range of each other all the way down the run. The obvious solution, already mentioned, is to take off one at a time with a reasonable delay between.

I find that a fast in control skier passing much slower skiers is relatively safe, because the fast skier can pretty easily stay clear of the slower people, and their interaction is brief. Kind of like nobody (nobody with an ounce of self-preservation instinct) has trouble avoiding lift towers.
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