EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Thinking about some fatties...is this worth it?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Thinking about some fatties...is this worth it?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
In going to Jackson Hole and thinking about some fat skis for back up in case we get a dump. These are skis that will get no other use, so I am hesitant in putting out $2-300.00 for some Chubbs or FB's. I found some Volkl Snow Rangers in a 180cm for $35.00. Looking at the ski, condition is fine. My concern is...how much better will these be than my 71mm wasted Volant Platinums? I will be gaining some in waste, but loosing some sidecut. Worth it to mount them up and have to take 2 sets of skis out to JH, or just ski my Platinums out there?

I have bindings, so no cost there. I will mount them myself, so again, zippo $$.

They look like this (without bindings):

post #2 of 17
Phil ya need more than 71mm in jackson!

whats the waist of the snow rangers? If it isnt over 80, or close to it, it prob isnt worth it - but dont worry about the sidecut you dont need it at all in the pow

you could always rent if a storm came through.

have fun man - take some pics for us!
post #3 of 17
The Snow Rangers were great skis ten years ago. But by todays standard they are barely a midfat. Save your money and just demo if you get a big dump.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godwinaustin
Phil ya need more than 71mm in jackson!

whats the waist of the snow rangers? If it isnt over 80, or close to it, it prob isnt worth it - but dont worry about the sidecut you dont need it at all in the pow

you could always rent if a storm came through.

have fun man - take some pics for us!
Dimensions:
105-79-98

Might be a good rock ski for MRG though.

They have some old Dynastar BIG's, the orange ones..unmounted. These things are like 8-10 y/old...IMO these are worth 100 bucks at most and they want 200 for them. Too much.
post #5 of 17
Hijack:
Phil, when are you going out there? I'll be there Feb. 5-8.

.... and I don't know if those snow rangers are really that outdated. Those dimensions translate to about a 28 M radius, and are a bit fatter than the platinums.... for 35 bucks, try em out.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by U.P. Racer
Hijack:
Phil, when are you going out there? I'll be there Feb. 5-8.

.... and I don't know if those snow rangers are really that outdated. Those dimensions translate to about a 28 M radius, and are a bit fatter than the platinums.... for 35 bucks, try em out.
I will be at MRG those days, we are going to JH 2/28-3/4.
post #7 of 17

No!

If you are there for a week you could get real lucky and need big boards for 3-4 days max. (unless it is totaly epic). Demo rentals are 25-30 bucks a day w/o boots & poles, and if you join the JH Ski Club ($25.00 I think) you get a card good for 1/2 off at the various shops. Besides that you get to try ski you might never buy, Volkl Gotama, Spatulas, Sanouks, Swallotail Sollys etc. Lot more fun for maybe 100 bucks max.
post #8 of 17
Phil - I have 77mm wide 724 Pro's that I thought were 'da bomb and a great all around ski. I quickly learned in 28" of fresh and then even deeper crud over the next few days that they were not all that optimal. Did I have fun? You betcha - would of had fun on 2x4's.

But, I had to work my arse off to keep up with guys on fatties that I usually can lap in just a few runs. Not to mention they were using a lot less energy than me.

Think of fatties as a minimal added expense to enhance your already expensive trip. For $200-300 to purchase, assuming you have bindings (doesn't everyone?), I see renting as a hassle.
post #9 of 17
Snow Rangers were classic lusted after skis for tele'ers and still are for cheapass dirtbags like myself.

But as cheap as I am.. even I'd have to say that if you've already got a 71mm waist - go fatter for your fat ski. Otherwise you're just going to have more junk in your garage. IMO of course.
post #10 of 17
Another comment on renting fatties - not only selection but availability can be an issue depending on where you are. They're not renting these things on sunny hard pack days ...

The only down side of purchasing I see is that you have to carry two pairs with you ... and then pray extra hard you get to use them.
post #11 of 17
I skied some powder at Alta last year from a 51 in dump that was over my waist on Volant TiPowers, 186 cm. which have a 73 cm waist They skied fine. Provided you ski the Alta technique.
post #12 of 17
Phil - I don't know how much you weigh, but the performance difference between 71 and 79 mm waists will be more significant for a guy weighing under 160 lbs or so. For anybody 200 lbs or over, the difference will be considerably less, ie, your skis will still be way down in deep, soft snow.

Tom / PM
post #13 of 17
Like I said - could've been on 2x4's and would've had a blast. I miss the old days when all you needed was a pair of SL and a pair of GS skis for EVERYTHING. I'm certain that if I HAD to use just one ski I could ... but we don't.

I guess my point is that if all it takes is a little hassle of carrying a two ski quiver and dropping a mere $200-300 bucks to get that holy sh%& I'm-17 years old again, haulin serious arse, hucking large ... landing with ease, and skiing like the god that I know I am feeling versus the "they skied fine" feeling it's worth it to me.

Skis in general are so specialized these days that anything not in that category will flat out suck comparitively (again, in that category). I'll schlepp along a fatty to compare to my all mountain to in powder rather than compare the all mountain board to a 2x4 ... where I'm sure they'll be "fine".

BTW - I'm proposing shelling out the cash for a real set of fatties versus the $30 for a really used set of what basically you already have.
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
What the heck, I picked them up. I can use them for MRG for marginal days. I will still keep an eye out for for real fatties. Not a bad ski for me to leave up in VT at the rents place.

Keep an eye out for some 90+mm wasted skis skis.
post #15 of 17
I've been seeing a lot of old (maybe five seasons or so) Volant Chubbs floating around for about $125-150 bucks--and that's for a pair in good shape!! Heck, I even snapped up a pair and they perform just as well, if not better, than some of the newer pow skis. And, yep, the waist is 90+ mm and they've got the shape of a vintage fifties water ski. But still, $35 for a pair of Snow Rangers? Who can complain about that? Have fun out there!!
post #16 of 17
I agree with MrMatt. Old Volant Chubbs are a cheap and totally acceptable choice. No, you won't get the high-octane snap of a Sugar Daddy or Volkl Explosive. But, for $125, including bindings, you get a nice 90 mm waist ski with great float and decent torsional hold.

I've had an old pair of Chubbs for years, and they're still a hoot on deep dish days.
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
If I can find a pair of Chubbs for 125, I will pick them up too. Now..to concentrate on getting some Metrons!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Thinking about some fatties...is this worth it?