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Returned from the dead

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Thread Starter 
It has been 8 long years since my last confession, I mean ski run. And now I am ready to get back into it. I even have the wifes blessing. But I feel like Rip Van Winkle. Not only do skis look different but they cost a bloody fortune. I went and bought new boots. To me this is the most important purchase. I paid to have them professionally fitted and it will be worth every penny. The nice thing about buying boots is fit is everything, or just about, and it is easier to run around trying on boots than it is to test diferrent skis. Now the confusing part. What skis to get? I am hoping you guys can lend me some advice. I worked at a ski shop and don't exactly trust their opinions and here in L.A. there are few shops. I am (oops!) WAS a good skier. I was on ski team in college, but probably the worst racer on the team, at UC Santa Barbara no less, so that doesn't count for much. But probably the best bump skier on the team, or close to it. After college I was a ski bum at Keysone, CO and skied Northpeak about 50 days that year and got to be a pretty good bump skier. I could keep up with the ski instructors in the bumps, but of course there were some guys that were just amazing. Anyways, my point is I was pretty good. I skied RD Coyote Softs in a 195 cm length. Best bump ski I ever skied. Sometimes I question my technique thinking I must have liked this really soft ski because it forgave my tecnical mistakes. Honestly, I don't know, but I looked good. Now, 8 years later and 20 lbs heavier(marriage will do that to you)I am returning to skiing. But what ski to get. I want a softer forgiving bump ski, but not a "slug". Should I convert to the new "shaped" skis or just get a softer bump ski like the Salomon 1080? I plan to demo, I just have no idea where to start. I am 5'11" and weigh 165 lbs. (yes I'm a lite weight). I ski western ski resorts and love the bumps. I would rather use a great bump ski that was so-so on the rest of the mountain, than a great all around ski that was goood in the bumps.
Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ February 07, 2002 06:19 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Dan the bump man ]</font>
post #2 of 9

Welcome to Epicski.

Glad you made it back. sounds like you are well on your way. the 1080 is probably a good choice. It's a bump/trick ski with the ability to roam the whole mountain. You probably want to look at something in the 170-180 range. but Read on..
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Oh yeah, take a lesson. Let them know the last ski you were on was a soft straight, and ask for a level 3/full cert or equiv.
they can give you specific tips for coming off the straights and learning how to take advantage of the new shapes and technology.
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Well Dan Welcome back to skiing.Your smart to invest in Boots first. But You might still be jumping the gun here.
I would suggest that you take a lession or two on how to ski the new shaped skis. They really aren't so new anymore,it's just that how you ski them is a bit diffrent from what you learned.Also You can find out how to ski bumps and save your knees. Remember that they are also a few years older and supporting that 20 extra pounds!Once you have the basics down I would then start looking at some all mountain skis.I happen to like the K2 Axis X for Bumps.It has a nice even flex and still has some guts to take on the whole mountain and more.Spend the cash you have now on lessions and wait untill spring and the skis go on sale.Another ski to look for would be last years Volant Machete Mc G I have heard good things about it's proformance and you can get them Cheap I have seen them for about $350.00.
Ok my next advice is to quit your job and move your family to a ski town. It's never to late to be a ski bum !
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I used to ski bumps, almost exclusively. I don't claim to be great but I still have my glory days. I used to ski the Rossi 4s. Then the Viper Z. I have a liking for softer skis.

My advice is to be patient with the skis and try a few. I love the Bandit X. Mine are several years old. I tried the new model a few weeks ago and it was really fun, quick edge to edge. A very good bump ski that can handle a lot of the mtn but I personally think it is not the best for very hard or cruddy snow.

The technique may be different from the old straight slalom style of bumps skiing. So, a lesson might be a good idea to help clue you in to the changes in style and equipment.

Anyway, there are a lot of very good skis out there. Someone in another thread was talking about the shaped version of the Rossi Viper Z as a great bump ski. I had seriously considerd this ski a few years ago but I then left the bumps for trees and steeps, though I still hit them. I went with the Bandit X to help cope with a wider variety of terrain.

Anyway, good luck! Have fun sampling new skis.
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Oh yeah, I meant to say above that the 1080 might be the ski you are looking for. I've never been on it but I have seen a lot of people in bumps with them and they can handle non-bump terrain. My totally inexperienced opinion is that they may be a better bump ski than the Bandit X but not as good out of the bumps.
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There is the standard 1080 twin-tip & the 1080 Mogul. Do not get the two confused. The 1080 is a twin-tip ski that is fairly versital as an all-mountain ski. It doesn't do ice or deep powder, but will do everything else adequately. As twin-tips go, it is a good all-mountain ski, but you can find much better all-mountain skis.

The 1080 Mogul is a mogul ski with twin tips. It is more closely related to old straight skis than any new models. It does zipper-line skiing of moguls well but sucks everywhere else on the mountain. Only get this ski if you want to pound moguls all day.

That said, there are three types of skis you should be looking at if you want a ski good in the moguls that can do other things. The types are a versital shorty slalom, a versital all-mountain carving ski or a versital mid-fat.

The shorty slaloms are great but you don't want to look their way if you are planning on doing lots of fast cruiser runs or skiing off-piste. They would be much easier to maneuver in moguls than the other two types. Two versital models to look at are the K2 Mach S and the Rossi Viper S.

Look at all-mountain carving skis if you plan to spend the vast majority of your time on groomed runs. I have the Rossi Viper X PPS & it's great in moguls & on cruisers.

Look at mid-fats if you are planning to do some off-piste skiing. The Bandit X is suppose to be real good in moguls. Another mid-fat to look at is the K2 Axis X, maybe the most versital ski out right now.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info guys. I agree. I need to start with some refresher lessons and to learn how to ski the new skis. I plan on demoing a lot before buying. I just get obsessed with getting the perfect ski and research it till I go crazy. Anyways, I appreciate the advice.

P.S. Hey Astrochimp. Were those Rossi 4s the teal topskin ones about 15 years ago. Because I skied those at same time I skied the RD coyote softs and they were very comparable. What else of recent gear have you skied in the bumps that felt like those, because that is what I am looking for.
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Thread Starter 
Just a follow up, here are some of the skis suggested to me or I am interested in.
Salomon scream 10 pilot/scream 8 pilot/
1080/1080 mogul
Rossi Bandit X/Bandit XX/Powaire mogul
Viper X/ Viper S
VolantT3 power
Nordica W70 carbon/Airdrive TT
K2 Mach S/ Mach
Atomic Betaride 9.22/8.22
Dynastar Assault Superior

Looks like I have my work cut out for me.Any reviews are appreciated.
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