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Snowbird Announcement: Tunnel to MB

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
It seems that Snowbirs has announced plans to replace and extend the Peruvian lift complete with a tunnel through the ridge into Mineral Basin.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new...nnel_new_lift/

"Snowbird ski resort is planning to replace one of its original 1971 chair lifts with a longer, faster lift that would take skiers nearly to the top of the resort in Peruvian Gulch.

But that's not all: the resort would drill a 400-foot tunnel through the mountain so skiers can reach the backside in Mineral Basin, riding a conveyor belt without taking off their skis."
post #2 of 19
Wild and kind of cool, though I can't quite see the point.
post #3 of 19
Well, without the tunnel, the skiers might have to exert themselves... : :
post #4 of 19
STUPID. in a word.
post #5 of 19
I was just at Snowbird Monday and was thinking they have one of the worst lift systems of any resort I've been to. The Peruvian, Wilbere, and Little Cloud chairs are all in need of replacement. A lot of good terrain goes unused because those chairs are slow and uncomfortable. Everyone seems to gravitate to the few high-speed quads and the tram. It seems the crowds for the tram would diminish if they'd replace the Peruvian and Wilbere chairs with high-speed quads and extend them further up the mountain. The tunnel idea seems a little strange, though.
post #6 of 19
I skied the Bird at Thanksgiving. The Wilbere Chair was not running, and all the chairs had been removed. I was told that one of the chairs (with no one on it) had fallen off the lift due to a crack in the piece that grips the cable. They were supposedly in the process of reinspecting all of the old chairs. Perhaps the Peruvian Chair's time has finally come. I love to ski it because the lift lines are short and the ski lines are hot. You get a lot of verts in a short time. Extending it up the circque would definitely be good, but the tunnel idea seems more appropriate for Disney Land.
post #7 of 19
I have an idea the tunnel is becuse of the fierce ridge top winds that snowbird gets. Placeing the Lift just below makes sense. It's hard to get people off the chair in 40 to 50 mph winds. My question is how are they going to keep that tunnel open? In a big strom with strong winds I'm sure it would be packed with snow in no time.

Old slow lifts have thier place in the ski world they keep people off and away from some areas. I mean if your to lazy to boot a few steps up to a ridge line maybe you should be thinking of a new sport.
Alta is famus for it's old slow lifts. If spending 4 to 7 extra mins on a chair means getting to a few uncrowded runs I'm all for it. Besides late in the day a nice slow ride gives the legs a bit of a rest.
Now here is a littel trivia fro you. Park City used an old mine tunnel and mine and cars they used to transport miners to get skiers back into Thaynes Canyon area back in the late 60's
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by rquick
I was just at Snowbird Monday and was thinking they have one of the worst lift systems of any resort I've been to. The Peruvian, Wilbere, and Little Cloud chairs are all in need of replacement. A lot of good terrain goes unused because those chairs are slow and uncomfortable. Everyone seems to gravitate to the few high-speed quads and the tram. It seems the crowds for the tram would diminish if they'd replace the Peruvian and Wilbere chairs with high-speed quads and extend them further up the mountain. The tunnel idea seems a little strange, though.
oh god slow chairs. we're all going to die on the chair. oh god.

grow up city slicker. you probably want to colonize the moon too.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Utah49
I have an idea the tunnel is becuse of the fierce ridge top winds that snowbird gets. Placeing the Lift just below makes sense. It's hard to get people off the chair in 40 to 50 mph winds. My question is how are they going to keep that tunnel open? In a big strom with strong winds I'm sure it would be packed with snow in no time.
Somewhere I read that this was part of the logic. By extending the chair to just below the ridge, it might not be on hold because of wind as often as if it went all the way to the top. Stopping just short of the top would also allow a wider variety of skiers to use the lift by avoiding the steeps at the very top though I guess they could always follow the Chip's cat track down through that part. By the same token, the tunnel would allow skiers to spill out a little lower in MB.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Utah49
Alta is famus for it's old slow lifts. If spending 4 to 7 extra mins on a chair means getting to a few uncrowded runs I'm all for it. Besides late in the day a nice slow ride gives the legs a bit of a rest.
To me it seems like Alta's lifts are downright modern compared to most of the front-side lifts at Snowbird. I definitely like the uncrowded runs you get riding from those chairs, though. The downside to crowd-free runs off of those chairs, however, is crowds in Mineral Basin and in the Gad area where I also like to ski. I'd prefer to have a more even disbursement of the crowd all over the mountain.
post #11 of 19
Salt Lake Trib article with sketch:
http://sltrib.com/ci_2531128
post #12 of 19
You know, except that it connects to Alta, the mineral basin is the lamest area in the Alta/Snowbird conglomeration...who is in such a rush to get to mineral basin??? The tram gets you to the peak (and along the ridge of the finest in-bounds skiing nel mundo!) in what 5-6 minutes??? With three-thousand death-defying verticle drops in all directions to boot. Why not just cut a few more tree-lines in the thunderbowl if your looking to improve an area that is, to my thinking, un-improvable (pardon my grammar).
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Liam
You know, except that it connects to Alta, the mineral basin is the lamest area in the Alta/Snowbird conglomeration...who is in such a rush to get to mineral basin???
I have to admit, seeing the photos, and the coverage in the Warren Miller movie a few years back, I was eager to ski Mineral Basin last year on my trip to Alta/Bird. It was largely dissapointing - the whole thing had been sun baked, and after a few runs, I was ready to move on. The Gad2 chair/area was much more to my liking. I'm sure it's probably pretty good with some new snow (what isn't), but I think the exposure probably kills it quickly. We ended up spending 4 days at Alta, and only 1 at Snowbird. I know we missed a lot there - but a week in Utah is never enough (missed Snowbasin, Solitude etc....).

The tunnel through the mountain idea seems pretty far out there.
post #14 of 19
When skiing Mineral basin in the spring follow the sun. Mineral basin skis bigger then most ski resorts.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Liam
You know, except that it connects to Alta, the mineral basin is the lamest area in the Alta/Snowbird conglomeration...who is in such a rush to get to mineral basin??? The tram gets you to the peak (and along the ridge of the finest in-bounds skiing nel mundo!) in what 5-6 minutes??? With three-thousand death-defying verticle drops in all directions to boot. Why not just cut a few more tree-lines in the thunderbowl if your looking to improve an area that is, to my thinking, un-improvable (pardon my grammar).
Man I didn't see all of snowbird but from what I saw of Mineral Basin, I loved. I can't wait to go back if that isn't the best place at Snowbird.
post #16 of 19
That's the thing about the mineral basin, as you view it over the crest (from either Alta or Snowbird) It looks great-Big, extremely wide, steep snowfield descent. But, It gets so sunbaked and tracked that it's probably the worst snow on either mountain-and about midway down-it gets, compared to the rest of the alta-snowbird paradise, a little boring.

The rest of snowbird is unbelievable-spend an afternoon doing tram runs skiing the bare Bare, Max Schnell, et al and you'll never hit the mineral basin again unless you're headed to Alta! Also, pick up an avalanche beacon and probe and stark hiking the Gad and Thunder ridges-unbelievable inbounds terrain. Or just spend a day skiing the tighter stuff off the Gad 2 Chair. For an expert (or aspiring expert-i.e, me) who likes a little adventure It's hard to beat the 'Bird (except Alta, of Course!).
post #17 of 19
>you'll never hit the mineral basin again unless you're headed to Alta!
TOTAL BULL. Mineral Basin rules when the snow is decent, you are correct in the south facing slop/crud that can be, but it snows so much at the bird that Mineral basin if very often great skiing.
post #18 of 19
I don't know-every time I'm there the mineral basin is usually full of a long line of boarders traversing that long midway traverse to the far rocks (on the far skier's right!). Everyone has there preferences-I just can't see tunnelling through a mountain to get to the mineral basin. Sure when it first snows it's great-but where isn't? Mineral Basin is great-compared to most places (hell, put it at Park City and it'd be the only thing I'd ski there)-but when compared to the rest of the 'Bird and Alta???? It's just not on par with the rest of that glorious terrain, No?
post #19 of 19
I wonder what they would do if while tunneling into the mountain they hit a vain of Gold?
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