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post #31 of 41
Originally Posted by newfydog
Myself, I seem to get them square on the kneecap, the left one harder than the right.

In my dreams, I aspire to a less flexible pale reflection of the calendar picture, with that inside hip low, deeply flexed inside knee, consistent tight early line. Alas, the skier who keeps showing up in my racing suit and bib number doesn't match (or most days resemble) the one in my head.

I must need new skis.

post #32 of 41
Oh goody a happy ending for once. Thanks dchan.
post #33 of 41
Originally Posted by newfydog
...check out the reigning World Cup Champion:

Actually, that looks like it will be an inside clear to me.
post #34 of 41
Originally Posted by sfdean
Newfydog, these are GS panels, not slalom poles, to it's not a good idea to hit them with shins.

Here's a good one showing the hazards of getting wrapped in a GS gate:

post #35 of 41

Gate wearing technique

Actually, Newfydog, my brother sent me a link to this video when it was first put up, suggesting that Koz had somehow learned the move from me. (The video is pretty grim, in showing her down on the snow at the end, and she skis faster than I do, but otherwise, the too far inside/whap/crash and go through the next gate with the back of the head thing is a move I really should have applied for the patent on. One nice thing about ski racing with my younger (44 now) brother is that on my worst days, I know that I entertain him.)

In the bad idea Olympics, I think I bronze medalled one year with the following move at a racing camp: When my line got too late to stay on course, I went right at the next GS gate, hitting it as square as possible, to use it as a self-arrest for a true Z turn. Kind of a blocking pole plant, but using only the poles the course workers supplied. (For the only three gate skiers in the world not experienced enough to know better, this is not a technique to emulate. Definitely part of the Biff Kneesprocket(tm)-only repertoire. It works, but only if you're not only late but also slow, and have more ibuprophen than sense.)

My eventual conclusion: It's a lot better just to ski an early line and not dive at one of the earlier gates.
post #36 of 41
Sorry folks, but what is a troll as it pertains to epicski?
post #37 of 41
Unless someone has a better definition:

Trolling is the posting of unnecessarily provocative material solely for the purpose of provoking multiple outraged responses, rather than actually posting a question you want the answer to, or want to promote intelligent discussion of.

I think the term derives from fishing, where you troll (proceed slowly in a boat) with the lure trailing out behind, trying to lure the fish up from the depths. The goal isn't the discussion, but rather how many fish you hook with the shiny lure.
post #38 of 41
Thanks sfdean
post #39 of 41

Was this a bad idea?

Hello Tania (I think that's how you introduced yourself to me!)
My name is Michael Chandler and yes I go by taospro. While I would defend your right to complain about a bad experience I also would hope you would back your complaint with facts, not your perceptions. I take my profession very seriously.
You were never coached "to hit the gates with your shoulders." Most racers who over rotate do expose their inside arm to hooking the gate. This was you, as well as most of your three fellow race campers. This was a surprise to me as one of you happens to have been my wife and knows better, as she has been coached otherwise. Your instructions were to BRUSH the gate with your inside HIP. I knew this would be foriegn to you so that's why we first did it skiing one gate at a time.
I, like others who read your post, was also confused. You seem to suggest that there were three of you who got hurt. Actually it was only you and Mary who were hurt. And while you say Mary "broke her hip and dislocated her shoulder", how would you actually know? You didn't spend the following hour with her and her dad in the clinic like I did. So you probably didn't know that she walked out of that clinic with nothing more than a bruised shoulder and hip. And while were on the subject of bruises, how's yours? I was concerned when I read that "you hit your arm, hard enough that the ski patrol filled out a report." I was surprised because it didn't seem to bother you enough at the time to slow down much. You hit your arm pretty early in the afternoon and continued on anyway. You actually told me you were alright. It wasn't until the ski patrol showed up later and I told him to check your arm. He was there to take witness reports because Mary left in a toboggan. That's the report you refer to. He also told you that he couldn't diagnose and that if you thought it was serious you should go to the clinic. I didn't see you there?
What really hurt me was to read what you said about seeing me "laughing and having a great time in the parking lot." Am I to infer that you thought I was laughing at you? What world did you grow up in? As a professional NOTHING matters more to me than the safety of my clients! I wouldn't last long at this if that weren't true. Which brings me to the matter of qualifications.
I have been teaching and coaching for 25+ yrs. I am currently an examiner in PSIA-RM. I am a USSCA certified (not current) coach. I am the Chair-elect of the PSIA-RM Alpine Cert/Ed Committee. And I love NASTAR.
The only reason I write this is I am sorry for your experience, I only wish you would have given me a chance to address this in a more timely and appropriate way. I would encourage you to address this with my ski school. Maybe we should leave the race clinics to NASTAR. Sincerely, Michael Chandler, taospro@aol.com
post #40 of 41
taospro, thanks for posting this. You didn't have to, and it certainly helps those of us who hang out here to have a better picture... I hope all of the students are doing well, after all.
post #41 of 41
Thanks Taospro/Michael

Helps to have both sides.

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