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Utah update- Deer Valley

post #1 of 27
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It's been snowing without let up for three days. Was very warm and the snow was a bit thick at lower altitudes- Saturday was spitting grapple driven by 50 mph sustained winds at ridgetop- however, it was pleasent enough in the lee of the mountains. My six year old was in ski school low down and didn't mind a bit. I took my wife up to the summit of Bald Mountain just as they were dropping the rope under the Sultan chair and it was sweet- but somehow she didn't dig the horizontal wind driven- buckshot grapple. However, there was thick yet fun powder all over the mountain. Sunday bagged it. Snowed all day, howling wind.

This morning it was almost raining in PC at the base- scrapped plans for Alta due to questionable Canyon opening- Avalache danger off the charts. Went up to DV with a friend who works there on a comp ticket expecting three inches of muck on groomers. Wrong- there was a good foot or two of new snow and the higher one went the lighter it got. Bagged freshies all over a deserted mountain- not champaign pow, but surprisingly light for how warm it was. DV- laugh if you will- but she's got some goods to go with the great food. Came to work at noon and it's been turning colder and dumping nonstop, getting dark now and no letup.
Any report from the Cottonwoods? with the altitude they have I bet it was screamin'... if people weren't interlodged all day that is. A big hunk of the storm went north- Jackson?
post #2 of 27
Hush your mouth only gappers ski deer Valley since they groom every nook and crany on that mountain. Nope no powder at DV you must have been some place else. Yeah thats it you was confussed you must have been at The Canyons.
post #3 of 27
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By freshies I meant fresh salad bar! :
post #4 of 27
The food *is* friggin' awesome at DV...especially if someone else is paying for it!
post #5 of 27
our friend in SLC just told us to drive down ( from North Van, BC, canada) to ski for the weekend...

considering the conditions here I'm tempted.

Should we go?

Leave Wed, be there Thursday, ski Fri/sat/sun drive back mon/tues
driving could be interesting on sections of I-84 near the blue mountains but other then that...
post #6 of 27
Do you guys like the atmosphere at deer valley? I went there for a day a couple years ago, while the snow and terrain were awsome! I found the majority of the people suck. Very stuck up, rich folk. While I have no problem with rich people, the people there just felt that they were above eeveryone.
It was wierd, maybeI was just there on the wrong day, but once that day was over I really wanted to go back to PC...
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by kev259
Do you guys like the atmosphere at deer valley? I went there for a day a couple years ago, while the snow and terrain were awsome! I found the majority of the people suck. Very stuck up, rich folk. While I have no problem with rich people, the people there just felt that they were above eeveryone.
It was wierd, maybeI was just there on the wrong day, but once that day was over I really wanted to go back to PC...
No, its like that every day. They don't call is Sneer Valley for nothin'. If you can get over that, the terrain/snow is actually excellent.

Powdr
post #8 of 27
i don't think there is a better trained staff or friendlier then that of Deer Valley. If you felt the guest were stuck up I just don't see it. A great many Utah locals ski Deer Valley with a locals card you don't have to have a very big bank account to ski there. More times then not I have had some good conversations on lift rides with total starangers. Most are happy to be out in the mountains and not in a office in New York or Chicago. Besides I love looking at the 28 year old Trophy wives with thier 68 year old husbands. I have to say The Art of Plastic surgery is really getting good. well i have to get back to Deer Valley got to find that 68 year old woman who took her ex for a few million so he could have his Trophy.
post #9 of 27
I wasn't talking about the staff, more just the people there. Very Very fufu, I hadn't shaved in a couple days and people were looking at me like I was a dirty hippy(which I'm not) Maybe I just hit it on the wrong day. These people didn't look like locals. It was also VERY crowded...I'll have to give it another shot, hopefully some of those people won't be there...
post #10 of 27
Kev259

What exactly do you mean by "stuck up"? What did they do or say to you? When you are skiing around the mountain - how do people affect you in any manner. The only people you really interact with - that also on a limited basis - are the lifties, waiters at the restaurant and maybe a ski patroller. And once in a while you strike up a conversation on the lift.

I have skied at many different resorts (DV too). I always try to strike up a conversation on the lift. Yes there are people from different stratas of society - i am always curious about where people are from. And mostly I am trying to dig up some info on which runs they have been skiing and where the snow is good. I have never had a single bad experience.

i am not challenging you - i am just curious.
post #11 of 27
Come on, don't get defensive. Sounds like you guys are getting mad, not what I was tring to do. Anyway, now that I think about it, it was pretty much all at the base of the mountain. I just got alot of very shitty looks from people, like I didn't belong there or something. Not sure why, maybe it was because I hadn't shaved in a few days. I didn't find that on the slopes, just at the base. And yeah I always strike up converstation on the lifts. And nobody said anything to me, so maybe I'm just looking into it too much, but I know when people give me that look of unacceptance. I told my buddie the same thing and he pretty much had the reaction you guys had. I'm not talking shit about the resort at all, just wondering if anyone else has had that experence, guess not...
post #12 of 27
What you didn't shave oh the Horror! Most of the people I have skied with there Doctors Lawyers and Investment Bankers go days without shaving at least when they are on thier guys trip and the wives are at home. There is a secret duct tape and Goretex clan that skis Deer Valley. Look deep in the trees and you may spot them. Truth is the people at Alta can be bigger snobs. Hell if you don't have a 10 year old TNF jacket and not skiing telly you must not be an Alta skier. Hell even the lifties at Alta look down on you if you show up with newer skis and a nice jacket.
post #13 of 27
hehe, that's kinda what I thought. I mean I don't look like a scrubby person or anything. Ahh well, I'll have to check it out again, I'm on Utah at the end of march, so maybe I'll spend a day there again...
post #14 of 27
related topic - the last time I was at Alta - in december - funny thing happened every time i boarded a lift. at least one of them would get out a cigarette and ask if it is ok for them to smoke ! haven't seen that every often. Oh ! FYI - I never heard anybody objecting.
post #15 of 27
Here is a log for the fire: About 75% of people who frequent the Canyons, Alta and Snowbird do it for the love of skiing/riding. The same can be said for about only 10% of those at DV! However, the food and service can not be beat. Why do you think that SKI Mag. loves DV? Certainly, not for those legendary "hidden" stashes of fluff that are in plain view and very accessible at the above areas. I just love the fur boot crowd at Stein's!
post #16 of 27
Oh did you forget that lift operators have been known to sleep on the job at the canyons?
I skied there two years ago, while unloading i looked over at the operator who was leaned up the electrial panel inside the lift shack, snoozing
I couldn't help but to report them to thier supervisor.
There are plenty of places at DV that only the locals and employees ski.
Canyons, i'd like to know where you get your stats from
post #17 of 27
My stats.? I was being facetious. On a serious note, I agree with everything you say in your post. Still, I would much rather ski The Canyons than DV. The terrain is just far superior (and the setting is much more natural)!
post #18 of 27
i like the canyons too, mainly the older area.
n one hardley goes over there, and thats nice
post #19 of 27
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I was trying to think of why I didn't like DV as much, in spite of the great staff and food, and I realized it's like a park- like a city park- All the other resorts in Utah are more like the national park variety- even Park City and Canyons once you get to the back Bowls. Snowbird and Alta are a completely different experience with the jagged granite peaks and steeps and whatnot. I was talking to some tourists from Texas on the lift today at PC who were getting mauled in the powder and pining for the groomed comforts of DV. (Had to get that in- yes another pow day in Zion)
I got introduced to the wilder side of DV the other day and it's not bad, especially because the guests huddle in the lodge at the slightest hint of snow or wind. (snobbery goes both ways)
But give up Alta? Never.
post #20 of 27
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speaking of Alta, this just came on my e-mail;

Dear Alta Skier!


Today is Tuesday January 11th at 8:00 am.* The road into the canyon is restricted and interlodge is in effect.* Please stay tuned for road openings and conditions.* Visit the Snow Report at <http://www.alta.com>http://www.alta.com, call the snow report at (801)572-3939, UDOT Big and Little Cottonwood Canyon update (801) 975-4838.* We have had 7" of new snow overnight and expect another 8-12" today!*


Settled Snow Depth:* 138"
New Snowfall: 7" overnight. 18" in past 24 hours.
Snowfall this season: 353"
<http://www.alta.com/Frames/snow_report_report.htm>http://www.alta.com/Frames/snow_report_report.htm


interlodge....harsh. ( for those who don't know what interlodge means, it's a state where the avalanche danger is so severe that no one is allowed anywhere outside in the canyon. Anyone leaving a building will be promptly arrested. Usually covers both Alta and Snowbird. Ever notice the resemblance of the Cliff Lodge to Hitlers Atlantic wall? No coinsidence.)
post #21 of 27
Ohh man so they have to stay in one lodge? Wonder how many people they havein there now...
post #22 of 27
No they don't have to stay in one lodge. Would that ever be a Zoo! It would make Animal House look like tea with the Queen at Buckingham palace. They stay in whatever lodge they are staying in, closest to or stuck in. This has not been a problem for a few years but this year It is looks like It will happen more often. I posted some things about thisin another thread to someone who as whinning that they were stuck in thier condo 10:30 am and couldn't get first chair. better to live to ski another day.

TR a few years back when it was Wolf mountain. It was not uncommon to have the whiff of smoke from a joint coming out of the lift house. "Whoooaa Dude ya fell off the lift what a bummer! No freshies for you."
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by Utah49
No they don't have to stay in one lodge. Would that ever be a Zoo! It would make Animal House look like tea with the Queen at Buckingham palace. They stay in whatever lodge they are staying in, closest to or stuck in. This has not been a problem for a few years but this year It is looks like It will happen more often. I posted some things about thisin another thread to someone who as whinning that they were stuck in thier condo 10:30 am and couldn't get first chair. better to live to ski another day.

TR a few years back when it was Wolf mountain. It was not uncommon to have the whiff of smoke from a joint coming out of the lift house. "Whoooaa Dude ya fell off the lift what a bummer! No freshies for you."
"Tee Hee Hee said mama bear to papa bear..."
Wasn't Park West the mountain where you could hear Wharf Rat blarring for the loadspeakers as you rode the chairlift?
Lock down at the Cliff! I could think of worse. Atleast you are safe and sound...and just a day away from a blissful day in the Gulch.
post #24 of 27
Yes as long as you pack some gear so you can be comfortable Like a sleeping bag pad and change of clothes toothbrush get a good nights sleep. While others are sore from sleeping on a hard floor cold and cranky from lack of sleep and really in need of shower! Your fresh and ready by the time the lifts open besides the boss saw on the news the canyon was closed so no need to get to work.
post #25 of 27
Unfortunately nowadays the people at the Canyons with the glazed looks and the widely dilated pupils are trying to sell you a 1/4 time condo share.

The worst thing about DV are those big empty houses and all that expensive badly used gear. DV is a great argument for a more equitable distribution of wealth.
post #26 of 27
Hey guys...went up Monday to Snowbird. LCC was open by 8:30...I was in my skis, waiting in line by 10 till 9:00 am. Upper part of the mountain was closed in the morning while they bombed. Skied Gadzoom lift line...awesome!! Two foot of powder in places, and soft snow (wet). Got too wet for a while, and headed to Gad 2 after they were through bombing. Got some awesome powder in the trees, but it got skied out pretty fast since the tram was closed. Mineral Basin never opened, but it should be AWESOME once they do...

Anyway, sounds like DV was good, too....
post #27 of 27
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Inester; so you got home o.k.! Glad to see there were bear tracks in Little Cottonwood Monday!
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