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Originally Posted by jpowrie
Now I am really confused. I have been assured by my well meaning (old school style) skiing companions that I need to work on keeping my shoulders facing down the hill. On reflection I am probably guilty of allowing my hips to drive my short radius turns. However since I have been following Lito's (carving not pivoting) method in my long radius turns, I believe my lack of counter is simply the result of not conciously facing down the valley, rather than deliberate swinging of my hips and shoulders.

In nice soft grippy snow I feel my skiing is improving and I am in control. On steeper hard pack I find myself picking up too much speed on each turn and getting locked into skiddy traverses where I struggle to regain edge and speed control. My loss of confidence culminated in the last few of the ski trip when the previous days rain and wet slushy snow froze solid during a sudden cold snap. Although I had a convenient excuse in that my edges were trashed after skiing over countless rocks the days before, I did notice that many other skiers were managing to retain style and carve on the groomed hard pack.

After consulting my ski books it seems that skidding out the tails of the skis is a classic symptom of a non-countered stance (presumably because counter moves weight forward in relation to the outside pressure bearing ski). Now it seem that lack of counter may be a good thing- hence my confusion.

I have also noticed that many good skiiers (ski instructors included) seem to push their inside ski forward as part of turn transition.

So my questions are:
a) Is counter a good thing to develop in skiing?
b) If so, is it driven by inside ski lead or should inside ski lead be a result of counter? It seem there are several possibilities:
1) Focus on inside ski lead and allow a passive countering of hips and shoulders.
2) Actively steer the skis from the femurs while keeping hips and shoulder facing down the valley.
3) Focus on keeping the shoulder facing down the valley and let the hips and femurs line up as required.

Thanks for your help.
Coach13 pretty much sums it up IMHO, JPO. The big thing is not to be pushing your inside foot forward at the beginning of the turn. Just tip it over to start the turn. And his views on counter are right on I believe.-----Wigs